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1962 Omega Seamaster - Authenticity Query and Price?

  1. mus30 Jun 9, 2014

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    Hi All,
    I'm making my first foray into the wonderful world of vintage watches and I wanted to get your thoughts on both the valuation as well as authenticity of the following piece?
    The asking price for this watch is $850USD (plus shipping).
    Links to image are here:
    http://www.qualityvintagetimepieces.com/OmeSeaCenSecBD2TDSSfull.html
    Description taken from the site.. Would really appreciate feedback on whether you think its worth it. From an aesthetic perspective, this watch totally hits the mark for me personally so happy to pay a hundred or so extra if it is overpriced.
    Thanks all!

    1962 GORGEOUS OMEGA SEAMASTER WATCH
    - MEN'S VINTAGE ORIGINAL OMEGA SEAMASTER WATCH.
    - MOVEMENT SERIAL NUMBER: 18712851 DATING TO 1962.
    - FULL SIZE 35mm X 42mm EXCLUDING CROWN AND LUGS TO LUGS, SOLID STAINLESS STEEL.
    - GORGEOUS POLISHED CASE IN VERY GOOD CONDITION
    - GORGEOUS RESTORED DIAL IN EXCELLENT CONDITION (MARKERS ARE GOLD TONE)
    - THIS BEAUTIFUL 17 JEWELS CALIBER 285 MANUAL WIND MOVEMENT HAS BEEN CLEANED AND OILED.
    - WATCH IS WORKING STRONG AND KEEPING TIME WELL.
    - NEW GENUINE LEATHER STRAP + NEW SPRING BARS + NEW ORIGINAL CRYSTAL + NEW ORIGINAL MAINSPRING.
    - CASE NUMBER: 14390 - 62 SC
     
  2. Lessismore Pro Constellation picker-outter! Jun 9, 2014

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    Too much $$ for a bad redial (or as they say restored dial) in my opinion
     
  3. Lessismore Pro Constellation picker-outter! Jun 9, 2014

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    case is also not great shape either, seems heavily polished
     
  4. mus30 Jun 9, 2014

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    Thaks Lessismore.
    What do you believe an agreeable price would be? Or is it not worth the trouble?
     
  5. Lessismore Pro Constellation picker-outter! Jun 10, 2014

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    Unless you could get it for free I wouldn't touch it, there are way better seamsters out there than that one. But thats my opinion.

    Also there is something with that dial, its quite small for the case or it is missing the bezel? Not sure….
     
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  6. Poday Jun 10, 2014

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    Unfortunately, the repainted dial alone kills any value. Sellers will often proudly state that their watch has a "restored original dial", which, while probably true, is nothing to be proud of. Here's an example:
    • Purchase an original Van Gogh
    • Pour paint remover all over it and wait 15 minutes
    • Run the canvas under hot water, and scrape away any remaining paint
    • Do your best to repaint the same work. Be sure to use the original canvas!
    • Sell it, proudly stating that it's an original Van Gogh canvas.
    Same thing here...
     
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  7. Poday Jun 10, 2014

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    Another example
     
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  8. mus30 Jun 10, 2014

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    Poday!
    Thanks for making it 'real'. I do love me an original Van Gough tho! :p
    Any recomendations on where I could source a similar watch? The style (black face, silver bevel, minimalistic) really appeals.
     
  9. Poday Jun 10, 2014

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    I'm no expert, but finding a good vintage black dial that isn't refinished isn't going to happen quickly. I'd say your best bet is the sales forum here (anyone attempting to sell a redial would be quickly dealt with), and a big bottle of patience.
     
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  10. Hijak Jun 11, 2014

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    Without looking at the pictures two things raise red flags in the description..."Gorgeous polished case" and "Gorgeous refinished dial." (And not to mention the overuse of "gorgeous" in his description) No need to look further!:cautious:
     
  11. Habitant Jun 11, 2014

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    I think he forgot to say that it was 'rare.'