1943 30T2SC ck2292 watch with no caseback markings

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People will always argue about the tactics - but it became a total war and one we could not afford to loose for the sake of freedom. When you look at the odds, the bravery of the men serving in RAF bomber command was incredible....

Bomber Command aircrews suffered a high casualty rate: of a total of 125,000 aircrew, 57,205 were killed (a 46 percent death rate), a further 8,403 were wounded in action and 9,838 became prisoners of war.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/6b-159-squadron---the-lancaster---photo-heavy.138662/

Couldn't agree more, it is inspiring and terrible all at once. Great thread you posted. I'm lucky to live half an hour from RAF Cosford where they have many aircraft on display for free, including a Lincoln. I'll be wearing this watch next time I visit. I picked up a book on Lancasters there that I really enjoyed, called The Courage of the Small Hours, I'd recommend searching a copy out for sure.
 
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I've seen many examples of 2292s without the military engravings on the case back. I've always assumed the engravings were skimmed/polished out after the war for reasons unknown. Perhaps the servicemen kept the watches after they were demobbed and didn't want any evidence that the watches were owned by the M.O.D.
As far as I'm aware all 2292s were special orders for the British government and weren't available for purchase by the general public.
 
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I've seen many examples of 2292s without the military engravings on the case back. I've always assumed the engravings were skimmed/polished out after the war for reasons unknown. Perhaps the servicemen kept the watches after they were demobbed and didn't want any evidence that the watches were owned by the M.O.D.
As far as I'm aware all 2292s were special orders for the British government and weren't available for purchase by the general public.

I know we all love assumptions - but for the sake of £100 did any of them order an extract from the archive to confirm the details so we do not have to assume the history?
 
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I know we all love assumptions - but for the sake of £100 did any of them order an extract from the archive to confirm the details so we do not have to assume the history?

The blackbough one I linked on the original post had no caseback markings and an extract from the archive confirming it was supplied to the British government.

At this point I’d say it’s probably more useful to ask if there’s any 2292 watches with an extract that *doesn’t* say it was supplied to the government.

Or am I misunderstanding your question?
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The blackbough one I linked on the original post had no caseback markings and an extract from the archive confirming it was supplied to the British government.

At this point I’d say it’s probably more useful to ask if there’s any 2292 watches with an extract that *doesn’t* say it was supplied to the government.

Or am I misunderstanding your question?

It was a reply to COYI when he said that he had seem many examples - I know the extract is a cost but it is nice to see things confirmed / I wondered if many of those had extracts.
I had not seen the blackbough extract - that says case number not applicable. It is a 1944 production so perhaps for time and efficiency and maybe costs they stopped that requirement. I think a fair few cases got swapped anyway due to damage etc / they had a tough life once issued. It would be interesting to know if there are any earlier examples.
To avoid confusion we have the outer visible markings and the inner case serial number to consider. I would guess the outer markings were applied just before point of issue. I can also see people might polish them off for the civilian market and unissued watches may never have had them engraved. The inner case marking would always remain. I wonder at what point that stopped (if there was a cut off point). We also have case and movement swaps due to damage and then the upgrades in the fifties. I can see why people start to enjoy this topic for research ;0)
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