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  1. jaegodylan Sep 28, 2020

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    Hello Folks

    I have a question about this military Omega I found. It has an odd dial variant and I can’t figure out if it has been redialled or replaced at some point.

    You will see it has seconds around the outer rim of the ring. Anyone familiar with this dial variant on a civilian issued watch?

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    A proper issued dial looks like this with the flat 4.

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    from AF2010-

    “Some 110,000 watches were supplied by Omega to the MoD in various forms during WW2 and this advertisement claims half of the RAF Navigational watches were Omega. It shows the watch generally regarded as THE Navigational watch, the Mk 7A, CK2292.

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    The Omega watch initially had a thin crown. As in the advertisement above, this watch has the big omega symbol, and Swiss Made on the dial, with a flat top 4.

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    SERIAL NO 1126/42 AND SNAP BACK CASE.

    Earlier 6B/159 watches were marked A.M. but after 1943 they were marked with the pheon and the issue number with an ‘A’ prefix.

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    MOVEMENT 30T2 SC

    Some watches were redialled while in service, and the one below is in the Omega Museum, with a small Omega symbol, and pointed 4.



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    In 1956 any 6B/159 watches still in service were recased in larger 36mm stainless steel Dennison cases, and some had black or white dials fitted by Bill and Sons. The Omega then was fitted with a thicker crown, and a screwed slotted caseback.”
     
  2. COYI Sep 28, 2020

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    It's a redial. Also seconds hand and crown aren't correct
     
  3. w154 Sep 28, 2020

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    Is it marked on the caseback ?
     
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  4. jaegodylan Sep 28, 2020

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    I was just asking if there was a similar civilian watch. I did some research at MWR on but hadn't seen this dial variant anywhere.

    The case is stainless and the casebook is marked as it should be.

    The watch isn't mine.. it is in an upcoming auction. No movement photos sadly.

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  5. airansun In the shuffling madness Sep 28, 2020

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    All the 5s along the minute track are a little different from each other.
     
  6. jaegodylan Sep 28, 2020

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    sure. I think the dial is a bit charming and hadn’t seen another like it.
     
  7. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Sep 28, 2020

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    Many watches in this thread are re dialled . Even the one in the omega museum. Omega sign and writing there from the 1956 recased version. Most white dialed 1956 examples kept the 1942 dial and hands. The museum one has the MoD font for the black dials, which were repainted to match the mil. Watch appearance from the 50's. The OP watch/auction watch has a civil dial with the omega sign and omega writing from the late 30's. So, a mix up of different watches. Should be around 40% cheaper than a correct 1942 mil omega with the alloy middle case . Kind regards. Achim
     
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  8. michael e Still learning. Sep 29, 2020

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    Here’s my little homage to these watches which I built from parts I had. A movement from a 6b, a alloy case, and a refinished dial. Even though it is wrong it feels so right :D
     
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  9. OMTOM Sep 29, 2020

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    There are specialists in this field – and I’m afraid I’m not one of them. However, something that has not yet been mentioned is that the original (military) version for the RAF had an alloy case – with longer and rather fragile lugs – and had the reference UK2292. The later steel-cased version was CK2292.

    The OP’s title mixes those up.

    I appreciate that the thread is about the dial – but we might as well get the correct references. Some of the illustrated cases are definitely UK2292.
     
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  10. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Sep 29, 2020

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    Beautiful picture and it looks very cool.
    Would you trade that crown for one that’s a correct repro for the watch? :p
     
  11. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Sep 29, 2020

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    "Latriaz" eBay user has good repros of that crown for sale. They fit well , Michael. Kind regards. Achim
     
  12. jaegodylan Sep 29, 2020

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    Movement shot.

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  13. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Sep 29, 2020

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  14. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Sep 29, 2020

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    and a real Omega Navigational 1941/42 for the H.S. ; Hydrographic Service ( making the Maps for example...) : https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/154081474942Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network . kind regard. Achim
     
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  15. COYI Sep 30, 2020

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  16. OMTOM Sep 30, 2020

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    This was the version produced for the Royal Navy - who always have to be different. There were other HS watches, similarly and earlier produced for the RN (which in WWI was RNAS, Royal Naval Air Service): on 1 April 1918, the Royal Flying Corps became Royal Air Force and the naval flying division went on to become Fleet Air Arm. But the relevant history relates to the HS versions produced for the Navy.
     
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  17. whippetman01 Sep 30, 2020

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    Here’s my Dennison cased. 826E3E10-9011-4405-84CA-0E83984F34C9.jpeg ECE3C387-61FE-4B5A-B95C-D5B5985B1BD1.jpeg
     
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  18. jaegodylan Sep 30, 2020

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    This redial sold for 880 plus 24 percent, a skimmed back for £560 and a 53 Fat Arrow with an odd service back for £1800
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