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  1. nkb

    nkb Oct 30, 2019

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    Hi OF

    My local antique shop has this 18K Seamaster de Ville with cal 562 and ref 14770 SC 61 with serial number dating it to 1963. I think it corresponds with the ref OT14770 found on the Omega Vintage Database.

    It comes with an aftermarket 18K mesh bracelet and the omega box seen in the photo.

    The movement and inner caseback photos were taken by the watchmaker as the watch is currently being serviced. The shop services all its watches before sale and offers 1 year guarantee on the movement.

    The shop owner says the mass of the gold case and bracelet is 60.6 grams with a scrap gold value of $2200. The overall price of the watch, bracelet and box is $2665.

    The issues I see are:

    Not sure if the dial is original or not. The cursive DE VILLE text was present on dials exported for the US market?

    I think I can just make out T SWISS MADE T under the 6 marker but not sure I can see lume on hands or hour markers ( pics are unclear as incoming from seller)

    There is black stuff around the case back. Cant be corrosion since it's a gold case?

    Movement tired looking but it may clean up after the service? Is that corrosion on the bridge plate?

    I like the look of these Seamaster unishell cases and the original crown and to have one in gold would be just awesome but not sure if condition matches the price. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

    If you require better pictures especially of the dial I can send later as I will view the watch when it comes back from servicing. IMG-20191029-WA0002.jpg IMG-20191029-WA0003.jpg IMG-20191029-WA0005.jpg IMG-20191029-WA0006.jpg IMG-20191030-WA0003.jpg IMG-20191030-WA0004.jpg
     
  2. Henneth

    Henneth Oct 30, 2019

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    There are De Ville dials with cursive text that are original. However afaik those were US models with 14 k cases. So either a redial or the dial was swapped out. Better pictures would definitely help...
     
  3. nkb

    nkb Oct 30, 2019

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    Thanks Henneth. As I said I will get better pics especially of the dial once I get to see the watch in person.
    BTW I whenever I see your avatar I just laugh out loud. Best avatar!
     
  4. Vanallard

    Vanallard Oct 30, 2019

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    The dial appears to be refinished based on the photos. Also, confirm with the shop owner that 60.6 grams does not include the weight of the movement (~15 grams). The aftermarket bracelet has little value beyond it's scrap gold value as it's not an original Omega bracelet. My guess would be that it weighs about 30 grams, which equates to a scrap gold value of $1000. With a bit of patience, you can find an original 18K Seamaster De Ville in excellent condition for under $1500 - I’ve attached a photo of an 18k Seamaster that I purchased from a fellow OF member a few months back.
     
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  5. nkb

    nkb Oct 30, 2019

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    Thanks for your valuable opinion and great watch of yours! Why is there no minute track on the dial though?

    The seller insists the dial is 100% correct but I'm not convinced. That and with the condition of the movement I think it is overpriced.