168.029 Constellation - Re-dial?

[biaesch]

Dear community,

I found the following watch interesting.

https://chrono24.app/omega/omega-vi...970--id33757172.htm?SETLANG=de_DE&SETCURR=EUR

I ve noticed, that the Constellation text on the dial looks different to what I know. The letters "n" are straight and not curved. Is this usual for this reference? Or is this a sign for a re-dial?

Anything else that would raise a flag?

Thank you very much.

 

[Omarrye]

I just saw (on Google images) 2 other examples that have the straight n, but most are the curved n. I have the date only reference from 1970, ref. 168.017, that has the curved n. The lume dots on the indices seem to have been removed on your example.

 

[Scarecrow Boat]

It’s always better to share photos vs links as links break.

For posterity, the price is €1,595

 

[impalla62ss]

Looks good to me.

 

[biaesch]

Thank you for your replys so far.

Also interesting this gold-caped model:



Any red flags here? Priced at 1670 GBP on ebay.

 

[Aroxx]

Later "transitional" examples of the caliber 751 C-cases introduced the new "Constellation" script lettering with a straight "n" as opposed to the previous curly "n". So that’s correct for a 70s 168.019/029.

 

[biaesch]

Thank you very much @Aroxx

Any other thoughts about the condition of the two examples shown?

 

[kaplan]

This is actually a better dial in terms of design, there is an improvement on the sides, a ring area

With this said, on the close up photo, that star looks like it might be dislodged

 

[chrisinohio]

The dial appears original to me. When the serifs show up that crisply at high magnification it is diagnostic of an original dial. That being said, I think the price may be a bit high for that example. Of course, the value is whatever anyone is willing to pay for it.

 

[biaesch]

chrisinohio

The dial appears original to me. When the serifs show up that crisply at high magnification it is diagnostic of an original dial. That being said, I think the price may be a bit high for that example. Of course, the value is whatever anyone is willing to pay for it.

Thanks. Are you talking about the silver or gold dial?

Edit: sorry, my mistake, understood now

 

[chrisinohio]

B biaesch

Thanks. Are you talking about the silver or gold dial?

The silver. I’m looking on my phone though, and I can’t really make it out the gold dial as well.

 

[biaesch]

Any other thoughts or even red flags about the golden version?

 

[X350 XJR]

B biaesch

Any other thoughts or even red flags about the golden version?

Laughable price, over polished case, nasty looking movement, very pitted case back.

 

[biaesch]

Thank you so much. In this case, the silver dialed should be prefered, right? not considering the price, though.

 

[Pvt-Public]

kaplan

With this said, on the close up photo, that star looks like it might be dislodged

It looks like the star is facet side down. Like the facets are keeping slight above the dial.

Shouldn’t the facets side be like this?

 

[kaplan]

I'm under the assumption that all stars are symmetrical, you can turn them 72 degrees and not notice any change, that facets you see are from the photo shadows - but from the photo it looks elevated, maybe possibly mis-glued in place - that part is worrisome

Actually a second look, the shadow of the star appearing under the star, kinda proves the star isn't inserted, so it's best a pass, mainly out of fear that there is glue on the dial

 

[Aroxx]

Pvt-Public

It looks like the star is facet side down. Like the facets are keeping slight above the dial.

Shouldn’t the facets side be like this?

Agreed. It looks like the star was glued on upside down. It’s a shame as the rest of it looks quite nice.

 

[dsio]

These are watches I really prefer to buy at auction just because they tend to have very few bidders which results in quite low prices. I’ve bought a few for friends for literal peanuts as a result of that.