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Omega Stories: The Final Pie-Pan - Hunting Japan’s Best Value Constellation

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“While the rest of the model line tried to carve a path in new directions, Omega produced two models exclusively for the Japanese market, that took a nostalgic step back into the past. These two models, the 168.0065 and 168.865 carried the vintage Omega logo on their dials in an era when even the Moonwatch had been updated with the new "modern logo", and resurrected one of Omega's most loved dress watch designs.” [..]

Visit The Final Pie-Pan - Hunting Japan’s Best Value Constellation to read the full article.
 
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A nice article, well witten, that puts this ref into context.
 
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A nice article, well witten, that puts this ref into context.
Thanks mate it was an interesting one to dig into, especially the flat dial 168.865 with its double stamped caseback and the very rare gold-plated version which wasn’t mentioned anywhere, even in Desmond’s excellent essay from a few years back, but then @Martinibianco goes and posts his collection of 4, including a great condition gold one. That sent me down a whole rabbit hole of Japanese auctions and vendors to find a few others. That’s one of the things I enjoy most about collecting Omega’s, finding out about a watch you didn’t know even exists after all this time.

This gold-plated piece there is exactly one of on OF, compared to dozens of CK2915s

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Lovely article, thanks once again! May I add a little something though? You’re saying that only SS examples exist and that they all came with pie pan dials. I believe this to be incorrect, even though the exceptions are few and far between. Compare:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/need-help-constellation-168-0065-flat-dial.149964/
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And:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/incoming-168-0065.29234/
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Only two examples I’ve ever seen though.

/edit: Sorry, your last reply popped up while I was writing my post @dsio
 
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MtV MtV
Lovely article, thanks once again! May I add a little something though? You’re saying that only SS examples exist and that they all came with pie pan dials. I believe this to be incorrect, even though the exceptions are few and far between. Compare:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/need-help-constellation-168-0065-flat-dial.149964/
76EED299-DE7B-47D3-AD28-7E7E0445B6FD.jpeg


And:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/incoming-168-0065.29234/
08F732D3-6DDB-4582-9006-6B2C31F4AD64.jpeg


Only two examples I’ve ever seen though.

/edit: Your last reply popped up while I was writing my post @dsio
Ah its one of the headings, the 168.0065 is piepan only and has no gold dial. The second reference appears double stamped on the non-piepan and gold dials and if you scroll down a bit through the article you’ll see I actually used that photo and mentioned the gold version too. They are plated only, not solid from what I was able to find and all carry the 168.865 reference.

So the article refers to both references, the piepan and the flat dial, and they have separate reference numbers but the second one is double stamped due to sharing the case of the first.
 
dsio
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Thanks for pointing that thread out though, thats the second one on the forum, I’d only found the first one and about 4 in Japan.

Incidentally these flat dials are often advertised as or discussed as 168.0065s, but every single one that has a caseback photo I’ve seen has the second 168.865 stamping below it which is what I’ve referred to these as in the article and IMO should be correct in the same way that the double stamped Seamaster Cal 551 Chronometer 167.070 should be referred to by that second stamped reference as its there for a reason.
 
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if you scroll down a bit through the article you’ll see I actually used that photo and mentioned the gold version too.

Yeah, completely my bad. I was scrolling through it on the phone, it coincidentally stopped before the part about the flat dials started and somehow I didn’t realize it wasn’t over yet.
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dsio dsio
I figured I’d post this one here too since its relevant, currently at $660 with 20 hours to go

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3046251...-53470-19255-0&campid=5338788128&toolid=10001

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Surprised this sold for less than $1k. I was lucky enough to find one in good condition for myself a while back, and it's rarely left my wrist. The 1011 is just as, if not more precise than my 55X Connies, and the two-way quickset is quite fun to scroll back and forth through while passing the time.
 
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Surprised this sold for less than $1k. I was lucky enough to find one in good condition for myself a while back, and it's rarely left my wrist. The 1011 is just as, if not more precise than my 55X Connies, and the two-way quickset is quite fun to scroll back and forth through while passing the time.
I really think it is just that movement that puts people off, so much stuff is posted online and people think the Calibre 1011 has cooties so they don’t even look for them. If it were a similar condition 14900 it would be big dollars, and in many ways I’d prefer one of these.
 
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Hi everyone! Absolutely loved the article and it was definitly the deciding factor on purchasing a Pie Pan 168.0065 project watch!

Only point of difficulty is figuring out the correct part # for the dauphine onyx insert hands & the original crystal. Even with that info, I'll still be in for a long ride before I come across them.

Figured this would be the best avenue to begin asking questions. You gentlemen seem to be on top of your game .

Fingers crossed that someone can point me in the right direction. I'll be sleuthing around in the meantime
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dsio dsio


“While the rest of the model line tried to carve a path in new directions, Omega produced two models exclusively for the Japanese market, that took a nostalgic step back into the past. These two models, the 168.0065 and 168.865 carried the vintage Omega logo on their dials in an era when even the Moonwatch had been updated with the new "modern logo", and resurrected one of Omega's most loved dress watch designs.” [..]

Visit The Final Pie-Pan - Hunting Japan’s Best Value Constellation to read the full article.
As always, a highly illuminating piece. I looked long and hard at these in my recent search for a pie pan. They certainly are one of the most attractive watches Omega has ever released, and the "Constellation" above is always sure to spark a conversation. Not a condemnation of the cal 10XX series, but I did have a rather negative experience with a cal 1022 Seamaster that two watchmakers gave up on. I have subsequently read enough assurances from very experienced OF pros, that I would seriously consider one of these down the road. Bring your wallet though, as it seems quite a few other afficianados have discovered this reference recently.
 
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Hi everyone! Absolutely loved the article and it was definitly the deciding factor on purchasing a Pie Pan 168.0065 project watch!

Only point of difficulty is figuring out the correct part # for the dauphine onyx insert hands & the original crystal. Even with that info, I'll still be in for a long ride before I come across them.

Figured this would be the best avenue to begin asking questions. You gentlemen seem to be on top of your game .

Fingers crossed that someone can point me in the right direction. I'll be sleuthing around in the meantime
Here is one that I was recently considering that is in very nice shape: https://www.ebay.com/itm/256356255091?epid=6051639697&hash=item3bb0060573:g:qbwAAOSwS1llu2cv
 
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just noticed that you were only looking for hands
No worries! Glad to know this thread still gets looked at though, so you've been a help adding that insight .
 
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That's a gorgeous dial. And the Omega logo looks awesome. Thank you for the info.
 
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Great article. I happen to be wearing my 168.865 on BoR today (Formal Friday?). I also have a 168.0065 on an Omega Milanese mesh. As to the cal.1011, both of these watches run <-2s per day so no complaints here.
 
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