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145.012 cal 321?

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Hi friends - I was hoping I could get a advice on this beautiful timepiece. History is I do not own it but I saw it at a store and tried it on and have been thinking about it ever since and it’s still available and hasn’t been priced as it was “in the vault”. I believe it’s a 145.012 cal 321. DON bezel seems to be in great shape. This is the only picture I have so I apologize.... I really liked the patina and it would be my first vintage omega, so want to make sure my first purchase is kept in-line with collector valuation. Any input on the watch and what it should retail for, collector price not crazy24 prices. Thanks for the help!
 
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eugeneandresson
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From that picture it looks to be in very good condition, with beautiful patina, a sharp case, a flawless dial and a good correct DON bezel. Hands look original. Crystal could use a polish, the movement no doubt a service, but that’s how we like to find them, and that’s the extent of what should be done should you purchase.

would be good to have more shots of the case and lugs from all angles, but I would put it in between ‘good’ and ‘collector’ on the price chart (keeping in mind the price chart is head-only, and this has a bracelet and endlinks, which cost about twice the price of a service) considering how seldom nice 145.012s pop up for sale.

http://speedmaster101.com/price-chart-2/
 
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eugeneandresson eugeneandresson
From that picture it looks to be in very good condition, with beautiful patina, a sharp case, a flawless dial and a good correct DON bezel. Hands look original. Crystal could use a polish, the movement no doubt a service, but that’s how we like to find them, and that’s the extent of what should be done should you purchase.

would be good to have more shots of the case and lugs from all angles, but I would put it in between ‘good’ and ‘collector’ on the price chart, considering how seldom nice 145.012s pop up for sale.

http://speedmaster101.com/price-chart-2/

this chart is very helpful - thank you for sharing.
 
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"..hasn’t been priced as it was “in the vault”.

I don't understand this? Is this for sale? If you saw it at a retail store shouldn't they have a price for it? Once you know the asking price you can compare it with watchrecon.com, ebay and other sales vehicles. Although speedmaster101 has good tools I've found that the market is so volatile that what they recommend you pay for a watch may be incompatible with what you can actually obtain it for.
 
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asrnj77 asrnj77
"..hasn’t been priced as it was “in the vault”.

I don't understand this? Is this for sale? If you saw it at a retail store shouldn't they have a price for it? Once you know the asking price you can compare it with watchrecon.com, ebay and other sales vehicles. Although speedmaster101 has good tools I've found that the market is so volatile that what they recommend you pay for a watch may be incompatible with what you can actually obtain it for.

The speedmaster101 is a great resource, I will be using that now.
I don’t usually buy my vintage (I collect a different brand primarily) from dealers, so I can’t necessarily tell you why as my trade is usually with fellow collectors. I’d assume, like all of us, you have some pieces you’re selling, some you might sell, and some that you’ll never sell. This particular dealer has been in the game for a while and might collect more than others.
 
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Looks really nice. What looks like a big crack in the crystal is probably beyond poly watch, but that's a minor detail. Grab it if the price is good !
 
ewand
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With that chrono hand, it will be a 145.012-67
 
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It's a (really) nice one. If not touched in the past, it's a 145.012 (-67 or -68) for sure.
 
Dan S
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Make the seller put a price on it. I really don’t like when a seller says “I’m taking offers on it.” Unless he’s really inexperienced and has no idea what to ask.
 
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-68 comes with both hands I believe

I don't have my MWO handy but I think you are right; both hands are found on both -67 and -68s, though I suspect the drop hand is more common on the 67 and the flat end more common on the 68...
 
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Make the seller put a price on it. I really don’t like when a seller says “I’m taking offers on it.” Unless he’s really inexperienced and has no idea what to ask.

If I'm selling a watch, I put a price on it, unless I'm not sure, and then I will say so, do some research and get back with a number.
If it's a watch I'm not actively selling, but people want to make offers on it anyways, it's on them to come up with a number.
 
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If I'm selling a watch, I put a price on it, unless I'm not sure, and then I will say so, do some research and get back with a number.
If it's a watch I'm not actively selling, but people want to make offers on it anyways, it's on them to come up with a number.

That all sounds totally fair to me. I agree 100%, if you're really ready sell a watch person-to-person, you should put a price on it, even it's not easy to do so. If you can't figure out a price, put it in an auction. If someone is trying to pry it away from you, then obviously they need to make an attractive offer.

The OP indicated that this is a dealer, and I think dealers should put prices on their watches, not play games fishing around for offers. Especially on a watch like this, which (although nice), is obviously not rare.
 
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Make the seller put a price on it. I really don’t like when a seller says “I’m taking offers on it.” Unless he’s really inexperienced and has no idea what to ask.

I agree with you.
 
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larrylush larrylush
He floated $11k on it.
Well, price looks good to me due the condition. If you can work on it would be even better.
 
bgrisso
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If you are going to pay retail then all the details matter. Bracelet, end pieces, service history, etc. there's only one pic and not much info so far.
 
Dan S
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As mentioned above, we would need to see comprehensive photos. It's a top-end price, but if everything is original and in excellent condition, $11k isn't an outrageous price from a dealer including the bracelet. It also depends how much value you place on being able to buy from a bricks-and-mortar store.
 
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mancio mancio
Well, price looks good to me due the condition. If you can work on it would be even better.
Don't forget to have a look at the crown!... if it is not the correct one, you can negociate -500 USD easily!...
 
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