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  1. OhmMega Mar 9, 2018

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    Are these basically the same watch or is there a difference between the two apart from one digit difference imprinted in the back casing?

    I have a 145.012-67 already and I've been offered a pretty nice -66 for 3.7k USD. The watch is not serviced and doesn't have a correct bracelet, does boot DON bezel and correct hands and dial.

    I do have one pretty bad picture which is not worth attaching here. I'm going to take a look at the watch next week to see it in person.

    I've tried search but didn't find anything as the search phrase is too common. Might be lack of teh intranet skillz tho?

    Worth buying?
     
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  2. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Mar 9, 2018

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    We need photos, and I suspect you are comparing a 105.012-66 with a 145.012-67?
     
  3. OhmMega Mar 9, 2018

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    Hello,

    Like I did mention in the 1st message: I do have one really bad picture which is *not* worth posting. Again, I do understand the hunger for pics but can't really help it. Sorry.

    I would reckon people in the know would know if there is any difference or not? And no, I'm not comparing 105.012-66 to 145.012-65 but an 145.012-67 to an 145.012-66.

    Thanks in advance if someone can provide some insight into this.
     
  4. rcs914 Mar 9, 2018

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    I suspect that @Spacefruit asked you if you meant a 105.012-66 since there is no 145.012-66 - that reference doesn't exist.
     
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  5. padders Oooo subtitles! Mar 9, 2018

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    I think what is being alluded to above is that there isn't a 145.102-66 and in fact there are 2 distinct case variants of 105.012-66.

    'People in the know' lol I would try to be a little more polite to the guy with the Orange Avatar if you do want help, he is pretty clued up in these matters.

    Maybe you should take a look at his website www.speedmaster101.com and you will get a whole lot of your questions answered.
     
  6. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Mar 9, 2018

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    Well I for one look forward to seeing a picture of 145.012-66
     
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  7. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Mar 9, 2018

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    a 145.012-65 and 145.012-66 in one thread? be still my heart!
     
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  8. rcs914 Mar 9, 2018

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    I think one thing that hasn't been remarked on would be that it would have to be an utterly awful watch for it not to be worth far more than $3.7K
     
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  9. Faz Mar 9, 2018

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    I drank a 2019 Château Petrus last night. Suple tannins, watermelon to the nose and brilliant purple colour!
     
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  10. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Mar 9, 2018

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    And yet so easily done
     
  11. OhmMega Mar 9, 2018

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    Okay? So there is no such thing as a '66? Is this really so? If so I do apologize.

    I did try to be polite: I merely passed on the info I was given? But as stated above: if no such reference exists - it is rather obvious that I am being ripped off? I called the guy and he is about 70+ yrs old so I doubt it would be intentional?
     
  12. abrod520 Mar 9, 2018

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    A photo will help, it's fairly easy to visually distinguish a 105.012-66 from a 145.012-67 except in the instance of incorrect replacement parts having been installed.
     
  13. OhmMega Mar 9, 2018

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    OK. This is the *only* picture I have of the said watch.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. OhmMega Mar 9, 2018

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    As said - I do own a 145.012-67 and this looks identical? So if there is no such thing as a '66 reference what is this? He said that there is 145.012-66 imprinted? But there is no pic of this as he gave the watch for service and was told not to service is if he is to sell the watch.

    Please do not try to be **** at me as I am trying to find out what I am about to buy. Or not to buy.,

    Thanks.
     
  15. Faz Mar 9, 2018

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    Not trying to be smart or anything but you're asking an assessment on a watch with zero pictures and expect a positive reply? The reference 145.012-66 does not exist. The price asked, unrealistic and too good to be true..

    Please don't buy the seller's BS that he can't send pics because it was sent for service. All this doesn't smell good..
     
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  16. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Mar 9, 2018

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    Thats an interesting 105.012-66CB.

    Tells are the short squat pushers, which are original with fat necks and we can see the facet lines on at least to of the lugs.

    I would also suggest it needs a service - look at the position of the hour counter which has not re set.

    The dial looks a little tired, with algae coloured plots which are not desirable, but they are there

    The dial appears to have a short spaced T marks. So all looks good as far as originality - in fact it appears very original.

    That being said, I would not buy this just on this photo - but it is a great help in identifying.

    For me its all about the dial. I would choose a watch based first on the dial. Then the reference. And in this case it wouldnt take much to beat this dial unless its rotten.
     
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  17. OhmMega Mar 9, 2018

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    Thanks a ton Spacefruit, appreciate your valuable reply.

    So this is a 105.012-66CB? That's even better than a 145.012.xx - right?

    The guy said that he bought the watch in 1969 as an used watch and has had it since. He did say that he gave it for a watchmaker to take a look-see and the watchmaker said not to service it if he intends to sell the watch - which he is. Also the watchmaker said that he'd like to buy the watch but did not have the cash at hand.

    Well that's pretty much what I know about it?
     
  18. abrod520 Mar 9, 2018

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    If it were being offered at the rates everyone is asking for 105.012s these days, of course not. But at $3.7K the math changes quite a bit. In my opinion the case and original pushers are more important at this point, as the dial can be skilfully relumed and the movement serviced. Even hunting down a proper bracelet would still land you significantly under the asking prices dealers have set.

    HOWEVER - if meeting someone in person about this watch, be very very VERY careful - ONLY meet in a well-populated, public place. Suggest a bank or a police station, and midday - no evenings. If the gentleman is actually asking such a low price, you'll have a great deal on your hands - but be wary of people trying to lure you in and then rob you.
     
  19. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Mar 9, 2018

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    Well its desirable, even with the algae plots which I am thinking might show better in hand.

    www.speedmaster101.com is your first stop

    There would be no shortage of people wanting that watch. Its always nice to get a watch from a very long term owner that has not been messed about with.
     
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  20. Davidt Mar 9, 2018

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    Does it definitely have narrow Ts? I can't see clearly on my phone.

    I'm fairly sure all the CBs I've seen have had wide spaced Ts.