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  1. sulaco Feb 9, 2018

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    Hi Guys, i has been quite some time i posted something, i was pretty busy with other things in my life, but believe me, i never forgot about this forum.
    Now that things settled again and i find some time
    to concentrate on my favorite watch brand again i would like to show you something i just bought today.
    What we have is a 145.003 as stated in the original receipt, but as usual it is stamped with 105.003 inside the caseback.

    It is a pretty late 105.003 sold in 1968 in Germany.
    The most interesting on this watch is the „non professional“ stepped t swiss t dial.
    I bought this watch from the original owner and
    the paperwork he provided does show one
    Stop at Bienne for gasket change ( thats why it has a replacement crown) in 1974.
    On the service papers, there was no dial/hand change mentioned.
    I already introduced one of these dials an a 105.003 i bought about 3 years ago, the thread is still here somewhere. As far as i can remember this watch had also a pretty high serial number and it did also come from Germany.
    How come that this dial hasnt been mentioned in
    The moonwatch book?
    Could this dial be a speciality for late 105.003 that were sold in Germany?

    The original bracelet broke but luckily the original No6 endpieces were kept to use it with a generic replacement bracelet.
    On the papers it is stated that it was sold with a 1035 Bracelet.
    Bienne or the Omega store also made a typo on the serial number, i didnt look at the movement to
    see which is the correct number, when i opened
    the watch i also could verify that the dustcover
    is not the shiny version, but the brushed type.

    All in all an interesting watch i would say.

    I would love to shead some light on these special
    Dials.



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  2. padders Oooo subtitles! Feb 9, 2018

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    It is normal for a 105.003/145.003 to have no Professional markings but MWO and Speedmaster 101 suggest that the short indices dials like that are service replacements.
     
  3. mr_yossarian Feb 9, 2018

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    The Dial is clearly a service dial with short indices, might have been swapped 1974 during the service, just like hour&minute hand that are not correct for a Speedmaster ( "blunt" tips,shorter, likely MK 2 hands). Other than that, a nice set.
     
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  4. sulaco Feb 9, 2018

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    Mk II hands are way thicker, arent they?
     
  5. merchandiser Feb 9, 2018

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    You're referring to the short hour markers I assume, very interesting. Another 145.003 sold in the US recently but had the longer hour markers that are associated with a 105.003. Great watch either way, congratulations.
     
  6. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Feb 9, 2018

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  7. padders Oooo subtitles! Feb 9, 2018

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    Now you mention it, there is something awry with the hands as noted above by Mr_Y. Here is what a 1966 105.003-65 which AFAIK has original dial and hands looks like:

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  8. mr_yossarian Feb 9, 2018

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    The tip should be longer, might not be mk 2 but I'm quite sure some MK hands. They should look like this.
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  9. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Feb 9, 2018

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    (I was trying to be sympathetic guys. ;))
     
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  10. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Feb 9, 2018

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    Incidentally, I also have a 105.003 from Germany with paperwork marked 145.003. Omega Archives confirmed it as 145.003, but they won't issue am extract with that as the 145.003 designation was an internal "logistics" number and not an actual reference number, so they told me.

    The paperwork I have for my watch though shows both numbers, 105.003 and 145.003 in different colour inks . So, someone must have added one of them later. Personally, I think the 105.003 was added later.

    Pic later if I can find the box .
     
  11. padders Oooo subtitles! Feb 10, 2018

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    But I bet the caseback says 105.003. I know there have been a few double stamped incidences but never a solo 145.003 caseback AFAIK. I think it more likely that 145 was added later.
     
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  12. sulaco Feb 10, 2018

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    Here is a picture of the other 105.003 i had with the same dial, also bought in Germany.


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  13. sulaco Feb 10, 2018

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