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  1. aly Jan 21, 2016

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    105.003 that looks nice, but cleaned, but the dial has no Tritium T's either side of swiss made.
    also bezel is DN
    hmmmm face.jpg
     
  2. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 21, 2016

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    What is your question? It is a newer (service) replacement dial.
     
  3. SpikiSpikester @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 21, 2016

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    Service dial service hands and service bezel, probably the hands too.

    Movement pics ?
     
  4. aly Jan 21, 2016

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    does this affect the price or collectability of the piece considerably.
     
  5. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 21, 2016

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    YES, very much.
     
  6. aly Jan 21, 2016

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    IMG_5856 (1).jpg
     
  7. aly Jan 21, 2016

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    thanks guys, so replacement on vintage is not good basically.
     
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  8. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 21, 2016

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    To some degree but it all takes a toll on the value. That watch has a lot of replacement, hence, high toll.
     
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  9. SpikiSpikester @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 21, 2016

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    It has value, especially in the movement.

    But the combined value of all the parts of this watch will not get anywhere close to the value of a watch with all the correct/original parts.

    For a watch to wear - no problem, as long as you don't overpay. For a watch to put in the collection - look somewhere else.
     
  10. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jan 21, 2016

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    while the dial looks like it's had the lume cleaned off, you're actually looking at SuperLuminova. Also, no step in the dial. that's how you can tell it's a service dial. Service dials can be had for about $300 brand new at ofrei. compare to an original vintage dial in good shape for $2K+ (if you can find one).
     
  11. bazamu wincer, not a bidder Jan 21, 2016

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    The best advice I can ever give to someone who's getting into vintage watches is to remember the Three C's of Collecting: Condition, Condition, and Condition.

    If you hold out for great examples, you'll never regret it years down the road. The same cannot be said for rash purchases of mediocre examples.

    But hey, to each their own
     
  12. ConElPueblo Jan 21, 2016

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    Surely the three Cs are Crosshair, Constellation and Crisp Case (okay, that might be four Cs...).
     
  13. ping pong patina Jan 21, 2016

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    In my part of the world the 4 Cs are Cash Credit Card Condominium and Country Club Membership lol
     
  14. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Jan 21, 2016

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    Actually CCC is fair enough in Rolex or other common brands.

    But with a straight lug speedmaster the decision is not about condition, it is about weather or not to own one. They are so rare that that is the choice. Not so much between one condition and another.

    Having said that, an incomplete watch, or one with the wrong parts, is not part of the decision.

    In this case, this is not a watch. It is a collection of parts that might, one day, be built up into a franken.
     
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