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  1. stef2010 Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Jul 25, 2013

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    Hi everyone,

    Just a little thread with my 105.012-64
    Delevery : 30 avril 1964 Italia
    Dial without the T T
    Mouvement number : 20.521. XXX

    The good crown is in his way from the US ;-)

    The classic pics after / before

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    Credit to Pianiste for his beautifull work

    Just happy to have my first 321 ;)

    Stéphane
     
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  2. stef2010 Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Jul 26, 2013

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    A few word from omega who let the mystery go on ;-)

    Dear Mr.,

    Due to the nature of vintage archives in certain cases information has not survived, is unreadable or even missing.

    We regret to inform you that unfortunately the provided serial number (20.521.XXX) falls onto that category, so we are unable to issue an Extract of the Archives.

    We are sorry for the inconvenience.

    Best regards,

     
  3. Varasc Jul 26, 2013

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    Absolutely lovely, a treasure from the past.
     
  4. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Jul 26, 2013

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    Beautiful......a treasure indeed.
     
  5. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Jul 26, 2013

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    wonderful work; congratulations ! a good start to get more 321 speedies !! kind regards. achim
     
  6. stef2010 Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Jul 26, 2013

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    Yes ! 105.003 .... straight lugs ....
     
  7. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Jul 26, 2013

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    That would be wonderful choice
     
  8. Pianist A 12 inch WHAT?!?!? Jul 26, 2013

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    Hi,
    I am a new member from Belgium :)
    I have restored this nice speedmaster. I am specialized in "reluming" hands and dials.
     
  9. SpikiSpikester @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 26, 2013

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    Should there be T marks on the dial ?
     
  10. stef2010 Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Jul 26, 2013

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    Look at this one :

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    master11.jpg mayrte10.jpg

    And mine (credit Richard for the pics)


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    For what i know : one of the first 105.012 / very rare dial without the T T mark ....
     
  11. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 26, 2013

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    Is it just me or is does anyone else have a problem with reluming and/or refinishing these speedy dials? Even the one with the extract does not preclude refinishing.
     
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  12. g-boac Jul 27, 2013

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    Steve - I'm not a fan of reluming dials either. I'd prefer one in original condition with shaky or missing tritium, than one that's been relumed.
     
  13. g-boac Jul 27, 2013

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    Question on the two dials pictured above: note that the words "SWISS MADE" on the first dial appear taller than on the second.

    That tall "SWISS MADE" text - what's the deal with it?? I've seen it once or twice before, but rarely. Much more often, the font "SWISS MADE" (on radium dials) is as appears on the second dial above (the ACP one).

    cheers,
    Mark
     
  14. SpikiSpikester @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 27, 2013

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    Is it possible that the printing on the dial of the OPs watch was refinished, as well as it being relumed ?

    Perhaps Pianist or Stef2010 could clarify.
     
  15. stef2010 Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Jul 27, 2013

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    Hi for what i Know the dial wasn t
    refinished and it s a really and trully rare dial.
     
  16. michael e Still learning. Jul 27, 2013

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    Both dials look fine to me, and lovely at that. In the second picture of the OPs dial the wording "Swiss made" just looks elongated by the curve of the plexi. Nothing to worry about in IMO.
    Re-luming is personal preference, I think it improves the look of some watches.
    Cheers Mick
     
  17. Pianist A 12 inch WHAT?!?!? Jul 27, 2013

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    What do you prefer ?

    [​IMG]
     
  18. michael e Still learning. Jul 27, 2013

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    Re-lumed.
    Looks clean and tidy and still a nice original dial.
    Cheers Mick.
     
  19. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 27, 2013

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    Original, relumed starts starts down a slippery slope and it does hurt the value and saleability.
    If you want clean and tidy, get a new dial, but keep the original with the watch and untouched.
     
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  20. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Jul 27, 2013

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    Original. No principle here, just turned off by the yellow color of the relumed one.