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Vintage Longines Conquest Automatic

  1. Khyne Sep 24, 2014

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    Hi all,

    I would like to ask for some help verifying the authenticity of this particular model I'd like to buy. I have searched for other gold Conquests with the fish symbol on the back and I only keep seeing Conquests with the blue sky caseback. What's the difference between those two models?

    I know the crown is not original and I'm thinking the second hand is also a replacement, but I guess I can find those two separately.

    Your help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
     
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  2. ulackfocus Sep 24, 2014

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    It's authentic. Your watch is gold capped, not solid gold. Stainless and gold capped have the green fish medallion, while solid gold models have the blue waves & stars. The only thing I see wrong is the crown - it's a replacement.
     
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  3. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Sep 24, 2014

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    Original crowns for these are generally available on eBay.

    Something about the seconds hand doesn't seem quite right, either.
    gatorcpa
     
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  4. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Sep 24, 2014

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    I'm seeing what appears to be significant wear on the gold cap on the upper left lug.

    Second hand on these is typically the same length as the minute hand.

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  5. Khyne Sep 24, 2014

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    Do you guys think this one can work?
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    The seller said he replaced the seconds hand because he thought it looked better in black. But he now has it with the original hand.

    Do you think in its current state it's ok for me to pay USD 250 for this one?

    Thanks from Colombia.
     
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  6. Patrick Dixon How do these messages get here? Sep 24, 2014

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    I've been looking for a SS one for a while, but they don't seem to come up ...
     
  7. Andsan Sep 24, 2014

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    I suspect that the hands are wrong.

    Accompany picture of a watch I owned in the past with the right hands

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    /Anders
     
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  8. Khyne Sep 24, 2014

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    I think you are right. Besides, there seems to be short bold lines in the markers and the one being offered to me doesn't have those either.

    So, should I let this one go for $250?

    Thanks everyone for the help
     
  9. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Sep 24, 2014

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    I believe that the (hour and minute) hands are correct, and here's why:

    While it is true that a big majority of Conquests from that era have hands with narrow spaces for lume, they also invariably have lume associated with the markers. I believe that there was a small percentage of models that were produced without any dial lume whatsoever, and, as in the case of the example being discussed, when there is no lume associated with the markers, it is both consistent and correct to find the type of hands seen.

    Furthermore, the script is too good for a redial, so I do not believe that there ever was any lume associated with those markers.

    Here's a steel example (the hands are corroded, but no space for lume):

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    Cheers,

    Tony C.
     
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  10. ulackfocus Sep 24, 2014

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    Agreed on Tony C's point - I would have mentioned it if it stood out as wrong.
     
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  11. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Sep 24, 2014

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    Price is good for a Conquest in decent condition. See TonyC's watch for an example of the correct crown. Just need to find a gold one.

    Like the gold seconds hand much better also.
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  12. khmt2 Sep 25, 2014

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    I say go for it - I definitely paid much more for mine!

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  13. Khyne Sep 25, 2014

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    Thank you all. I'll definitely get it this afternoon. I'll post some pics at the end of the day.
     
  14. Khyne Sep 25, 2014

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    I want to thank everyone for the comments and help I received. This is a truly great forum and I'm glad to be a member.

    I already have the watch in my hands and I couldn't be happier with it.

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  15. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Sep 25, 2014

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    Congratulations!
     
  16. ulackfocus Sep 25, 2014

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    :thumbsup: