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First decent watch - Looking to buy Seamaster De Ville - Help please?!

  1. dannyd4315 Jul 22, 2014

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  2. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Jul 22, 2014

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    Hands are short.
     
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  3. John R Smith Jul 22, 2014

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    Hello Danny, and welcome to the Forum. These '60s DeVilles are too modern for me ;) so I am no expert on this particular watch, however -

    Tim Mackrain, the seller, is an honest and reliable trader, and he always does a fine job of servicing Omega movements. But (and for me it is a big but) he has this terrible habit of fitting generic Swiss-made hands which are not correct for the watch. In this case the minute and hour hands are far too short - the minute hand should extend right out to the edge of the dial, where the minute marks are. So from an Omega collector's point of view, the watch has straight away lost a great deal of its value. Others who are more knowledgeable about these '60s Omegas will probably weigh in shortly with further observations.

    P.S. I see I have just cross-posted with Hoi, who makes the same observation!
     
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  4. dannyd4315 Jul 22, 2014

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    Thanks Guys, good to know that he is reliable. However, like you said if its lost value by replacing the hands, then its back to the drawing board! I assume its unlikely that I could find the correct hands for this watch?
     
  5. Hijak Jul 22, 2014

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    Should be longer stick hands like these, as mentioned above, and not dauphin hands...
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    That's a lot of money for a non-original SM De Ville
     
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  6. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 22, 2014

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    Agreed that's a lot of dollars to pay for that, draper effect in action no doubt
     
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  7. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jul 22, 2014

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    One thing that Tim does is totally strip down and re-plate the external movement parts to a uniform copper color, like when it was new. I know of no other eBay seller who routinely does this. I agree that the price is way high, but you are getting a bit more for your money than from the average eBay gouger.

    Correct NOS hands for this watch are generally avaliable, so I don't know why he doesn't just buy them in the first place.
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  8. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jul 22, 2014

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    Unfortunately this can hide any nasty previous damage or mismatched parts.
     
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  9. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Jul 22, 2014

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    It may look like new but functions like a piece of s...
     
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  10. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 22, 2014

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  11. citizenrich Metal Mixer! Jul 22, 2014

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    Oldie, but damn goodie!!!

     
  12. dannyd4315 Jul 23, 2014

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    Thanks for your advice guys, will keep an eye out for others!! Pretty much set on a white dial anyway, that one looks great Hijak...
     
  13. Hijak Jul 23, 2014

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    Thanks Danny, with a little patience and perserverence you will find a good one...just keep vetting your watches here and you'll do fine.:thumbsup:
     
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  14. dannyd4315 Jul 23, 2014

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    Cheers! Will do! As it happens I have found another one, I could actually go to the shop and look at it as well as its near me in London. However it looks alot different to the normal Seamaster Deville, maybe its a special edition? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gents-Vin...es_Watches_MensWatches_GL&hash=item3f3590bbadPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
     
  15. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jul 23, 2014

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    Its not a Seamaster, just a DE VILLE and from the looks of the printing on the dial likely has one of the ultra thin movements probably a cal 711.

    Price is ridiculous.
     
  16. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Jul 23, 2014

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    +1, I usually see these for $300-400 max.

     
  17. John R Smith Jul 23, 2014

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    Be wary! Notice there is no photo of the case back . . . and they do mention "a couple of scratches" :thumbsdown: No picture of the movement, either. And all for lots of money.
     
  18. Mothra Jul 23, 2014

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    I'm also not convinced Wimbledon watches is a physical store having looked at their website. I think its just a poncy way of saying 'we sell a lot of watches on ebay'