I'm a bit in the dark regarding next purchase. I'm between a couple of watches. For now I'm looking at a Zenith S.58, a rolex 5513 or 60's heuer autavia. But this can change. I saw this black beauty. What a stunner! Although I dont know these a quick search told me it looks ok. But maybe I'm wrong. . But that price... 5,7k. That's firm! I would say this is a 3k - 3.5k watch. Or am I beeing cheap?

 

What's the asking currency? Does the seller happen to be in Italy?

 

My take - will be closer to sellers ask than the top of your range.

 

At this price level, let's nitpick?

the pushers, hmmm what's up in this area:


Overall well used case but bright pusher, maybe missing the metal gasket? Lighting artifact? Dirt? Wrong pusher ? I can't know.

The dial looks heavily oxidized.



In short, not a watch I would buy on pictures only, I'd like to see it in the flesh.

 

I can’t help you with pricing, but I think it’s a stunner. Giving off some M95 vibes, this reference is now on my radar!

Edit: I didn’t look closely at the second picture. Dial condition leaves something to be desired.

 

Euro. And yes, Italy!

 

Good catch regarding dial!

 

Zenith supplied these watches with minute hands that don't actually reach the minute track?

Seems a bit odd to me, but I'm no expert on the model.

 

Here's another one:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/my-grandfathers-zenith-146-hp.106215/

 

I think it's a spectecular watch. But somehow I would'nt spend almost 6k on it.

 

Apparently so. Odd choice, but this appears to confirm it...

https://omegaforums.net/threads/the-so-called-rare-cal-146-hp-reverse-panda.56806/page-2#post-726883

 

Pushers and crown are totally different on this second one, no?

 

Yes. There are some differences. I would say the crown on the ebay example is not original to the watch. Pushers I dont know.

 

On the second one they are old (brassed a little). On the first they look new, and badly fitted but on pictures it is difficult to be certain.

FYI, finding and properly fitting a correct looking set of pushers on a low production watch from 60 years ago is a nice can of worms...

 

An uncommon model that's for sure. In regards pricing this is in the ballpark of where dealers are pricing these nowadays.

There was a LeGant branded one on Hodinkee a few weeks back for $3,900 which sold sharpish. IMO that one felt cheap.

https://shop.hodinkee.com/collectio...t-zenith-chronograph-1?variant=33049024266315

 

A LeGant in very nice condition also sold in an ebay auction several weeks ago for $3,800.





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So my eur 3000-3500 is'nt that strange.

 

I'd say the Zenith has way more prestige and therefore a higher pricetag .....it's a bit like the difference between a Skoda and a VW....what's under the hood don't count!

 

Come to think of it, there was a LeGant sold on Instagram last month too. I don’t know the price of that one but it’s somewhat interesting that three showed up on the market around the same time.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CJi0iL7rbfz/

 

This. All things being equal, Zenith will fetch a hefty premium over ... what was that other brand again?