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  1. John R Smith Jul 13, 2013

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    This is supposed to be a 1948 with a 351 bumper movement. Does it look right to you? Gold cap on S/S, screw back ref 2582. The first thing I notice is the crown, which looks wrong -

    1948 Bumper-1.jpg


    Here's a side view -

    1948 Bumper-2.jpg

    It looks a bit like an early Connie case with these lugs, but how about the dial?

    John
     
  2. ulackfocus Jul 13, 2013

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    Do you mean wrong besides the refinished dial? ( ;) )
     
  3. John R Smith Jul 13, 2013

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    Well, Dennis, I did say how about the dial :) . . . so, wrong crown, dial refinish? (so far)

    Here's the back -
     
    1948 Bumper-3.jpg
  4. John R Smith Jul 13, 2013

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    And here is the seller's description (who I had assumed to be trustworthy) -

    "Omega model CK2582-5 (Pre Seamaster) Bumper Automatic c.1948. A rare Omega with gold capped lugs and bezel on stainless steel case. This model was the forerunner of ref.CK2635 which became the first Seamaster in the same case. The condition of the watch is superb with no wear through of the finish on the gold cap. The two tone dial is original with some loss of the original lacquer but is very evenly worn and without significant marks."
     
  5. ulackfocus Jul 13, 2013

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    Just having some fun. It's worth a closer look at that dial - it may be original but aggressively cleaned.
     
  6. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jul 13, 2013

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    I think the dial is original but as noted by Dennis its been cleaned.

    Rare, NO, superb, NO.

    Pass.
     
  7. John R Smith Jul 13, 2013

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    Yes, that's all very helpful. When I asked about the dial I was thinking about that rather odd patchy appearance. Strange that the seller did not bother to fit a new crown (which he usually does). Are crowns for this model obsolete or hard to find?
     
  8. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Jul 13, 2013

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    Otto Frei has one here - 8100/1013. Pretty sure the $32,400.00 for the crown is a typo though. :D

    I have also seen them come with the onion type crown like Daniel's.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jul 13, 2013

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    Crown could be original. Not all were signed at the time this watch was made. However, it should be gold plated, not steel. It is possible that the plating came off at some point? Dial is probably OK, but the relume job on the hands is ugly.

    Has the case has been polished so aggressively that the gold capping is gone from a good portion of the lower lugs?

    Not liking the second picture very much.
    gatorcpa
     
  10. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Jul 13, 2013

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    I can't vouch for if that crown is original or not.

    Miss that watch - currently being serviced.