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  1. MOL Oct 3, 2017

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    Hi all

    Have two Longines that miss parts - they have most likely been used as donors

    First is 31mm and potentially a "sei tracche" with a nice dial and "only" missing spring barrel/anchor. I cannot identify the reference?

    Second is a 12.68z which is missing a number of parts. Dial is OK but not superb. 35mm size.

    So, not being very knowledgeable in the Longines market, I would appreciate a verdict; fix or scrap?
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  2. MOL Oct 3, 2017

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    Edit: Wortwhile fixing the 12.68z and any view on which ref for the first one?
     
  3. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Oct 3, 2017

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    Of course it worth fixing!!!!!!!
     
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  4. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Oct 3, 2017

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    You must contact Longines with the serial number to determine the reference number. The 12.68Z is certainly worth fixing if the dial is original. Do you have any images? Great dial on the 6T!
     
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  5. MOL Oct 3, 2017

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    Here we go dial snd case. Fair at most, but nice clasdy design
     
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  7. MOL Oct 3, 2017

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    Reference might be 6263 18 / 777 (?) numbers on inside case back
     
  8. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Oct 3, 2017

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    6263 is indeed the reference number of the 12.68Z. The reference number of the sei tacche (6T) will also be 4 digits. The dial of the 12.68Z looks original but as you mentioned, it is not in the best condition. I would go against my previous advice and not necessarily restore it. The pink-dialed 6T is highly desirable. This one is certainly worth fixing.
     
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  9. MOL Oct 3, 2017

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    Thanks - that was my gut feel as well...the dial looks much better irl vs the pic but...
    I will seek the caliber for the 6T movement through Longines and watch out for spares on that one.
    If the 12.68Z can help someone on the forum don't hesitate to shout...
     
  10. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Oct 3, 2017

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    I'm reading all of these posts and can only concur…; and add that if you don't want to retain the first one, I'll gladly take it off your hands aka dibs!! Unless @DirtyDozen12 wanted it too.

    Edit /add: one of the lower lugs seems to have a deep cut in it? … hard to see on this picture but that might require attention ...
    Could impact value I suppose but I reckon it can be fixed through laser welding.
     
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  11. MOL Oct 3, 2017

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    Any view on approx value for the 6T in working condition?
     
  12. Fost Oct 4, 2017

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    Dibs on the salmon dial only ( if original :))!!!
     
  13. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Oct 4, 2017

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    Get in line ;)
     
  14. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Oct 4, 2017

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    I’m always hesitant to reply about value because it’s so subjective, and I’ve been wrong before.
    What I’ll say is that the dial is definitely a plus, while the small size, and lug damage would tend to limit whatever one might consider its market value. The strap marks on the back of the case could also impact value for some people and to a certain extent (I personally wouldn’t care but again that’s just me).

    The repair could be costly as you may need a donor movement for the missing parts (unless your watchmaker has access those missing vintage parts?).
    This looks like a 23M, and could cost about 100 dollars/ euros to get the movement, plus labor.
    Laser welding if needed (that’s what your watchmaker will tell you) could add about 20-40 euros on top depending on where you are.

    Hope you have access to a good watchmaker who’s not adverse to working on vintage watches? In what country are you based?
     
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  15. MOL Oct 4, 2017

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    Based in Sweden, and can Do some less complicated work myself. (Avoiding hair spring/balance work...) Has done some work on Omega manual 60s and Zeniths, but not worked on early Longines so this would go to a pro - I know a few that are good. Issue is waiting list :)
     
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  16. François Pépin Oct 4, 2017

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    I will say as well that the salmon dial watch is really worth fixing.

    If your balance is good, the good news is you can buy a donor with a broken one - il will be much cheaper.
     
  17. MOL Oct 4, 2017

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    Thank you - balance is fine!
    Movement 23M, right?
     
  18. François Pépin Oct 4, 2017

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    The first one? What size is it? If it is a 23 mm or so, it is likely a 23M. But I would prefer to look under the balance to be sure, in particular before buying a donor.