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·Why is the Omega 53 TA 2777-1 so undervalued not saying it’s cheap but being an important link in the omega history and the predecessor to the railmaster, what’s your guys take ?
Why is the omega 2777-1 undervalued ?
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cristos71
·Because it doesn't say Railmaster on the dial? No broad arrow hands? Less well known than a Railmaster? The market is flat/down over the last few years.
There are many reasons why one watch is valued more than another. If I were to say one vintage Omega model was under valued then I'd say the biggest undervaluation would be to the Cosmic TDMP's which can still be picked up for the less than the price of a tatty 1970s Speedmaster.
There are many reasons why one watch is valued more than another. If I were to say one vintage Omega model was under valued then I'd say the biggest undervaluation would be to the Cosmic TDMP's which can still be picked up for the less than the price of a tatty 1970s Speedmaster.
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Dan S
·I generally think the values are in line with other issued military watches of similar rarity and quality.
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MSNWatch
··Vintage Omega AficionadoBecause it doesn't say Railmaster on the dial? No broad arrow hands? Less well known than a Railmaster? The market is flat/down over the last few years.
There are many reasons why one watch is valued more than another. If I were to say one vintage Omega model was under valued then I'd say the biggest undervaluation would be to the Cosmic TDMP's which can still be picked up for the less than the price of a tatty 1970s Speedmaster.
There was a period of several years where I tried to purchase every single TA and TDMP in good shape that I could locate and I still keep an eye out for these models but now only the ones in the very best condition.
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·You've hit the nail in the head about what I think are two of the most undervalued vintage omega models - TA and TDMP. I will add also that these are two models that are very hard to find in tip top original condition and those examples are similarly very undervalued as well. The TA though and its low valuation has always puzzled me because it has many factors working in its favor - modern size, military, relatively scarce, antimagnetic, railmaster precursor and omega brand.
There was a period of several years where I tried to purchase every single TA and TDMP in good shape that I could locate and I still keep an eye out for these models but now only the ones in the very best condition.
Cheers
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lucentcrow
·Because it doesn't say Railmaster on the dial? No broad arrow hands? Less well known than a Railmaster? The market is flat/down over the last few years.
There are many reasons why one watch is valued more than another. If I were to say one vintage Omega model was under valued then I'd say the biggest undervaluation would be to the Cosmic TDMP's which can still be picked up for the less than the price of a tatty 1970s Speedmaster.
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lucentcrow
·Because it doesn't say Railmaster on the dial? No broad arrow hands? Less well known than a Railmaster? The market is flat/down over the last few years.
There are many reasons why one watch is valued more than another. If I were to say one vintage Omega model was under valued then I'd say the biggest undervaluation would be to the Cosmic TDMP's which can still be picked up for the less than the price of a tatty 1970s Speedmaster
I generally think the values are in line with other issued military watches of similar rarity and quality.
I’ve never even heard of a tdmp so I guess that’s why it also flys under the radar
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Ah yes I do know those, but are they rare ?
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··Vintage Omega AficionadoAh yes I do know those, but are they rare ?
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·Uncommon overall but just as hard to find in excellent condition as it is to find TAs with unblemished dials. To wit:
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·Which ones ?
I’ve never even heard of a tdmp so I guess that’s why it also flys under the radar
But I really don't think these are flying under the radar, they are both highly sought after. Any vintage Omega that sells for more than $5k is a very desirable watch, IMO.
They don't come to market in good condition very often, so new enthusiasts may not always be aware of them. But when one comes to market, it brings good money, they are very desirable to collectors, and sell for more than plenty of watches that are more rare.
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·Are they undervalued? I think it is such a subjective statement with so many personal preferences in play for each individual watch that it is imponderable, and simply comes down to individual, personal buying decisions related to each individual watch, at a certain point in time.
It is a decent, middle market mvt military 3 hander. There are quite a variety of those around, personally, I prefer a JLC Mk11 as it has a better, more historically interesting (to me) movement. Within the 53's, those for the NZ or Australian airforce are probably fewer on the ground than even a nice TA, yet don't make quite the same prices, strangely, in my opinion. I have a white dialled '53 that might be an MoD redial, or might be a civilian redial, no one knows for sure but I probably prefer it to a nice TA.
I think the classic, original TA has had quite a bit of 'low level hype' on forums over the decades and somewhat of a myth has been created, and it is a very attractive watch, perhaps it's perceived 'value' lies in those factors. YMMV.
It is a decent, middle market mvt military 3 hander. There are quite a variety of those around, personally, I prefer a JLC Mk11 as it has a better, more historically interesting (to me) movement. Within the 53's, those for the NZ or Australian airforce are probably fewer on the ground than even a nice TA, yet don't make quite the same prices, strangely, in my opinion. I have a white dialled '53 that might be an MoD redial, or might be a civilian redial, no one knows for sure but I probably prefer it to a nice TA.
I think the classic, original TA has had quite a bit of 'low level hype' on forums over the decades and somewhat of a myth has been created, and it is a very attractive watch, perhaps it's perceived 'value' lies in those factors. YMMV.
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lucentcrow
·Are they undervalued? I think it is such a subjective statement with so many personal preferences in play for each individual watch that it is imponderable, and simply comes down to individual, personal buying decisions related to each individual watch, at a certain point in time.
It is a decent, middle market mvt military 3 hander. There are quite a variety of those around, personally, I prefer a JLC Mk11 as it has a better, more historically interesting (to me) movement. Within the 53's, those for the NZ or Australian airforce are probably fewer on the ground than even a nice TA, yet don't make quite the same prices, strangely, in my opinion. I have a white dialled '53 that might be an MoD redial, or might be a civilian redial, no one knows for sure but I probably prefer it to a nice TA.
I think the classic, original TA has had quite a bit of 'low level hype' on forums over the decades and somewhat of a myth has been created, and it is a very attractive watch, perhaps it's perceived 'value' lies in those factors. YMMV.
