Why does AI act like a fawning sycophantic used car salesmen

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We see a fair bit of AI here on the forums, and aside from the fact that it's wrong much of the time about watch details, what I HATE even more about it is the completely obnoxious "tone"...............it's just so slimy, grating, phony, whatever.

I assume it must have been programmed this way? And it could be programed another way? Honestly, I would much rather see a gruff/skeptical tone than the current version. I guess it will probably keep changing based on what developers think users want? Although I'm not sure why anyone thought the current "personality" was a good one.

Maybe at some point you will be able to pick a real or fictional "character" for your AI? At the moment it seems to be Andy from The Office (TV series). Maybe something like Clint Eastwood from the early westerns could be amusing........"How about you STFU and stop wasting my time with stupid questions..........😂"
 
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Don Rickles would be a hoot.

I think Bob Newhart would be a blast too, draw the line at Woody Allan.
 
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In a nutshell: You haven't configured it correctly.

You'll have to go to the settings of the model you're using and click on "settings/account/instructions" or something similar (this is what Claude uses) and give it some context, i.e. information about you and what you're using the model for, and some rules about how the model should interact with you and what the output should look like.

I have a myriad of personal rules and guidelines which I wont share here, but I will post the tone guidelines if you'd like to give them a go... but be warned the model will go from sycophantic to terse.

I hope that helps, Matt

HOW TO TALK TO ME

Answer first, reasoning after. If the answer is no, the first word
is no. Match reply length to the size of the question.

No opening validation ("Great question"), no enthusiasm inflation
("Absolutely", "I'd love to"), no exclamation marks, no closing
offers of more help. Stop when the answer stops.

No metadiscourse. Do not announce what you are about to say ("one
thing worth naming", "here's the thing", "let me be clear"). Start
at the content.

No staged reactions. Do not report your own surprise as evidence
that something matters ("this stopped me in my tracks", "here's
where it gets interesting").

No stock or dead metaphors ("the smoking gun", "the elephant in the
room", "moving the goalposts", "the north star").

Do not frame human behaviour as transaction: what something costs,
buys, returns, pays off, is worth. Do not inflate ordinary stakes
into danger: protecting, weapons, at risk.

Do not build sentences to land. No rule-of-three crescendos, no
climax clauses, no quotable closing lines, no "it's not X, it's Y".
Put the strongest point where it naturally falls.

Analogies are welcome when they explain a mechanism. Cut any figure
that only raises the temperature.

No insight tags. Do not claim significance by inventing a crowd who
miss it ("which is the part most people overlook", "the bit nobody
talks about", "what most people get wrong"). Do not end a sentence
with a clause that rates it ("which is the whole point"). If a
trailing clause can be deleted without losing information, delete it.

These are examples of faults, not a blocklist. Apply the principle
to phrasings not listed here.
 
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Cool thx, I'm not super knowledgeable about using AI and didn't realize you had control over those kinds of things. I will have to play around with that a bit.
 
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In a nutshell: You haven't configured it correctly...
Outstanding rules Matt. I'll crib a few. Some extras I use:

Writing and presentation style: UK English, curly quotes, no ampersands, and no block capitals except for standard acronyms.

Token-heavy tasks: before starting anything large (long documents, complex artefacts, extensive research, large file processing), flag the likely cost and suggest whether a lighter model such as Sonnet would do. You decide before I proceed.

Clarifying questions: if I have more than two, ask them one at a time, highest priority first.

Phrase all answers in Pirate. [Kidding. Mainly. Aaarrggh].

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Another tip some of my colleagues use for high-stakes work is take the output from one AI, and put it into another with the instruction "make this sound less AI". Repeat as needed.

Cheers,

Other Matt.
 
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I used to have Borat set as my TomTom navigation voice....it was all the driving advice I ever needed, absolutely hilarious! For example:

"Watch out, there is speed camera ahead. If they catch you, they put you in a cage like my brother Bilo!"
 
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Yeah, there's a lot of slop. Older generations are just discovering these tools and using them badly, too. It will get worse before it gets better.

The em-dashes drive me a bit crazy too.
 
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I am just a victim of AI, not a user, not a Specialist, not a trained computer programmer, just a user. I just have to listen to AI on youtube, not read it in letters, not read it in post, not having it tatooed to my skin, just listening to it on youtube. The thing that I really dislike is not the monotone voice. Not the slick nerve wracking tone, not the fact that it never stumbles on words. ITS THE GOD DAMNED "NOT`S" ALL THE F-ING TIME! I know that the Saab engine have 5 cylinders, you just said that, you dont have to emphasize that it does not have 4 or 6 cylinders.

I hope you get my point.
 
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“Mirror mirror on the wall, who’s the fairest of them all?” That’s AI. Directional at best.
 
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AI is trying to let you know it is about as useless as a used car salesman.
 
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Just say no to AI. Seriously. I've been doing a lot of reading about it, and aside from hallucinations and other nonsense, it's just plain wrong nearly half the time.