I bought the current Moon watch in late 2016 (the ref 311.005) and it was sized to fit correctly. Over time I have put on weight due to a change in diet and it no longer fits my wrists as well as it did. With the single adjustment notch it's too tight but adding a full link would make it too loose.

Every Speedmaster I've seen since the 70's has either had a clasp with absolutely loads of extension notches or the bracelet itself could accept half links.

The current model has a single notch and can't take half links. It's absolutely stupid and I can't think of a single reason why Omega did this. This is probably the worst bracelet they've released for this watch.

Does anyone have a solution other than buying the adjustable clasp and fitting it? (Which I tried already and Omega wouldn't even sell it to me).

 

You could try adding the link and putting the soft part of a Velcro sticky onto the caseback.

I retrofitted the SM300 clasp on my Speedy bracelet and it is absolutely a game-changer.

An AD should be able to order it (and the attachment links) for you if you ask them nicely. It's worth the trouble.

 

You could fit a halfnlink from other Speedmaster bracelets (even from the 1610/930 seamaster variant) but won't have screws like modern bracelet. I would suggest you go with the adjustable clasp; even though your OB is not cooperating you can buy the parts elsewhere.

PM me if you need help as my local OB has been pretty accomodating with me on such parts.

 

They don't make halflinks for the current bracelet?!

 

No, and they didn't make them for the previous one either...

 

Omega must still make the half links. I bought the new Moonphase this week and it has the adjustable clasp with three micro notches and half links in the bracelet.

 

Different watch and bracelet. There is no half link for the current Speedy Pro or the previous 35705000. On that one you could use a half link from the 22545000 Seamaster and use that, but none were made specifically for the bracelet that was on the Speedy Pro.

 

I assume you are in Europe, you could ask a forum member to purchase an adjustable one and mail it to you.

 

Ahh come on Al, you are being pedantic here. I think I am right in saying that the individual The 2254/55 full link has exactly the same replacement code as the braclet link on the 3570 or at least it does on Cousins so while Omega may not have mandated a half link, the reality is the the 2254/55 full and half link fits just fine. It was you who first alerted me to this so please don't take it badly that I am using it to take issue with you!

 

I know they work - I said so above and have fitted dozens of them. It wasn't my discovery by any means - someone on a forum tried it and it worked, and the news spread from there years ago.

The last bracelet used on the 35705000 was a 1998/849. There is no half link for this bracelet.

The 22545000 uses the 1610/930 bracelet. The part number for the half link is 115ST1610.

I have told many people that the half link from the 1610 bracelet will work on the 1998 - that includes the customer care manager at Omega here who once mentioned in conversation that he could not get a good fit on his 35705000, and wished there was a half link available. He was certainly grateful that I passed this on.

The fact that it works doesn't change the fact that there is no half link for the 1998.

Cheers, Al

 

The clasp attaching link from the 1620 bracelet also works well. OME-118ST162012. The picture shows the difference.

 

Thanks for the replies everyone, with the amount people talked about just putting a half link on a 3570 or even going into an AD/OB and ordering one, I always just assumed it was made specifically for the Speedmaster itself...Never knew it was actually from a Seamaster.

This clasp here that adjusts that KJH666 has is what I want really but Omega and the AD/OB are being really uncooperative with me about buying it. Apparently this one on the Moonphase is smaller and different to the other one people recommend.

There's the 117STZ001154 and 117STZ001159 which is the same but with a dive extension and they originally came off on the Seamaster Pro 300 I think and then the 117STZ004666 which was originally on the midsize Planet Ocean.

I think the 117STZ004666 is the same clasp they're using on the moonphase Speedmaster - it's much smaller/shorter than the other adjustable claps and has less adjustment (I think it's like 5mm vs about 20mm)

Omega won't tell me what the clasp is on the Speedmaster KJH666 has and what attaching links it needs to put it on a 311.005 bracelet. I even emailed a local Omega service center and they didn't have an answer - just contact Omega themselves which I did and they didn't reply to me.

I don't really want the 117STZ001154 clasp because it was made for dive watches and is probably too long/big (my bracelet already only has four links at 6 and five at 12) and it will be an overwhelming amount of clasp underneath my wrist.

The clasp KJH666 has is virtually the same size as the clasp I have now I think but has a small amount of extra adjustment which is all I need - more than the single bracelet notch and probably similar to a half link or one full link. I just don't know it's part number or how to even make it fit since the 215.30.40.20.01.001 moonphase Speedmaster doesn't use the same bracelet as the 311.005 and nobody knows the part number for this new clasp. You're the first person I've seen on here or watchuseek that even owns this version that's not on the leather strap.

 

Just checked mine, the bracelet is STZ005669 and the clasp is STZ004666. The micro adjustment gap on the clasp is 5mm and has three notches.

 

Thank you for your reply. I've been looking around online and just discovered the 1171/633 bracelet which Omega apparently still produce. It's got a vintage 20mm to 16mm taper, has no polished bits and the clasp has a huge amount of micro adjustment holes.

Rather than paying all this money to make some sort of franken-bracelet with adjustable clasps and such, I'm just going to buy the 1171 bracelet from my AD and wear that instead since I prefer it anyway.

 

Good shout. They are very comfortable bracelets due to the smaller size of the links.

 

Just be aware that it is a pretty old design from an era when folded links and rattles were normal. The first 1171s were produced in 1970 and do look a little out of step with the solidly engineered bracelets people expect on high end watches these days. They ain't cheap either, at least not from Cousins, though that is no surprise I guess.

 

I saw one in a video on YouTube and noticed it did sound rattly compared to the current one. It was pretty much from the same era as the "sheet metal" Rolex clasps and hollow end link bracelets wasn't it?

I found the bracelet with clasp attaching links included on CousinsUK online for £295. Would I be paying less by ordering it straight from Omega in a shop do you think?

It's hard to work out what Omega still produce as they seem to keep the inventory quite secret, but I'm guessing this is the only vintage style bracelet still in production.

 

Well judging by Cousins general policy of price gouging on all things Omega (SMP links are half the Cousins price at a boutique for instance) then yes I do think there is something to be gained by trying at a AD or boutique. They can be a bit funny about selling parts for a watch which didn't originally come with them but will probably be fine with fitting a modern Speedy with an older Speedy bracelet I should think. My experience of how helpful a boutique can be was very good.

ps the £295 at Cousins is plus VAT and delivery so bank on it costing nearer £360 delivered.

pps you could just pay the £25 for a Seamaster 115ST1610 half link like Archer suggested above, it really does fit the bracelet just fine, though persuading the boutique to order it may be trickier if they don't realise that it fits.

 

The 1610 Seamaster half link fits the 1998/840 bracelet doesn't it? Like the bracelet the 3570.50 had where it had pins. This is a 1957/958 bracelet on the latest 311.005 that has screws instead of pins.

I think AD's have some sort of list on the computer they reference when you order parts. When I phoned one trying to buy a Planet Ocean clasp to put onto a Speedmaster they asked for my Speedmaster reference number, then when I told them it they put it into the computer and told me the clasp wasn't on the list of specified compatible parts for my watch so refused to even order it. I think it shows them everything your watch can officially be used with and fits straight out of the packet with no modification.

I'm kind of worried because apparently the 1171/633 end links need to be filed down a bit with something as simple as a nail-file to make it actually fit so they'll probably consider that incompatible.

 

Oops my mistake. Yes you are right, I was thinking of the pin bracelet on the 3570. Ignore my pps above then!