Which one would you choose and why?

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The plaque, but only if there were no option to pass on both.
 
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Neither. They're both overpriced for their rather poor conditions.
 
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First one is a horrible mess in all respects, might be worth $75 for parts.

Second one not horrible, decent movement and not polished to death, but still not worth $400.
 
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Neither. They're both overpriced for their rather poor conditions.

Do you have an alternative for better looking ones at this moment within this budget?
 
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First one is a horrible mess in all respects, might be worth $75 for parts.

Second one not horrible, decent movement and not polished to death, but still not worth $400.
I’m tending to ask for something like $200 if seller agrees.
 
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I’m tending to ask for something like $200 if seller agrees.
BTW, do you know what model is this?
 
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I’m tending to ask for something like $200 if seller agrees.
Even at 200 they are not worth it, aesthetically atleast. Unless 200$ is your max budget and you are desperate to buy a vintage watch. Keep your money and wait for something better to come along.
 
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Even at 200 they are not worth it, aesthetically atleast. Unless 200$ is your max budget and you are desperate to buy a vintage watch. Keep your money and wait for something better to come along.

You’re right but take in count that I live in Brazil and everything here is much more expensive due to the high dollar price not to mention the insane customs taxes 🙁
 
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For 200$ I could buy the second one myself. Admitedly not my best buy but not the worst either. But 450 is way over the top. I wouldn't take the first one if gifted.
 
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For 200$ I could buy the second one myself. Admitedly not my best buy but not the worst either. But 450 is way over the top. I wouldn't take the first one if gifted.

Thank you my friend! Much appreciated.
 
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Have you looked in private watch sales forum? there are a couple of nice watches in the US$450 price range. Of course if the budget is US $ 200 then it is a different story.
 
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Have you looked in private watch sales forum? there are a couple of nice watches in the US$450 price range. Of course if the budget is US $ 200 then it is a different story.
What forum? My budget is about $ 500
 
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I would take the second since I find bumpers so highly enjoyable! Those two watch shown are of terrible shape, wouldn't buy those.