Where to retire, or not..

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Access to excellent health care was #1 on his list. You would expect a beautiful low cost remote location, but no, he chose a medium size town in north Texas due to access to senior health care.

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My mom semi-retired to outskirts of Dallas about 2 years ago, and is looking to move within the next year due to higher-than-anticipated cost of living (very high real estate/ school-related taxes?). I have an uncle who has been living there for a few decades, and he really loves the area he and his wife live -- it's a large neighborhood .of single-family homes for people in the 50s and older. My wife and I visited a few months back, and it was surprising how little there was around them; you need to drive a bit to get to grocery stores, etc. Maybe in another 10 years the empty area between their development and the nearest more populated area will be built out and provide them with more amenities. Not having a grocery store within, or nearby, a community of 1,500 houses where older people live is unfortunate.
 
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I hear Arizona and Nevada are real nice.
No. It's horrible. Former Californians will absolutely hate it.
 
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Regarding moving ‘out-of-country’:

Being on the edge of retirement myself, I’ve also spent a considerable amount of time pondering the why and wherefore of it. For a period of time, I seriously considered moving out of country to someplace seemingly more hospitable. Portugal, for example, is very tempting, as has been discussed here.

But, I already feel plenty alienated in my ‘old age’.

I’ve lost my place in my family.
My relationship with my spouse is not what it was (despite much work)
I’ve lost my role at work.
The region I live in (N. California) is barely recognizable from what it was 20 years ago
The country I live in is barely recognizable from what it was 20 years ago
The world we live in is barely recognizable from what it was 20 years ago

Now, I’m dealing with this stuff. But I’m not inclined to do anything to increase my feeling disconnected.

(I do believe that, by its nature, getting older is an alienating experience. I’m curious to hear how others feel.)

It strikes me that to move to a foreign country in my old age would only deepen my sense of alienation. Particularly where there’s a new language to learn.

And yes, nine years ago, I was seriously considering moving to Brazil (Porto Alegre seems like a beautiful city). Looking at Brazil today, I’m very glad I didn’t do it.

Thoughts?
Brazil is a giant mess. Argentina is somewhat better with a lot of fine looking women. Chile looks like the best bet down there. First-world country with the rule of law. Runs from the land of ice-bergs and glaciers up into the tropics, and from the ocean up to the top of the Andes. There are programs allowing you to live there indefinitely. Costa Rica also allows permanent residency if you can prove that you're not a bum, and tho dollar goes a long way. The only reason I'm still in this pale shadow of the country I was born in is my 9-year-old kid wants to stay. I'll manage to change her mind before long, though.
 
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There's a place in Hungary I'd like to check out, its called "the Valley of the Beautiful Women".
 
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There's a place in Hungary I'd like to check out, its called "the Valley of the Beautiful Women".
Intriguing! I googled it, but all anyone talks about is the wine.
Maybe that's what makes the women look beautiful.
 
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We have a trip planned in a few weeks to check out Florida. We think Sanibel island or ft Meyers beach. I get both very different. I'm born and raised in California, but the traffic and cost of everything is too much for me. We have looked at so many other places and we really hope this is a good match. Also, we like going to St Thomas, USVI twice a year, and it's a quick flight from there.
 
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I’m very close to full retirement. Probably by the age of 60 which is in the next year. My wife and I have started to travel, but will certainly do more traveling in the next 10 years as well. I hate working these days and I have a great job,,,I’m a professional background singer.
 
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Enjoy visiting Sanibel. We've been to Captiva a couple times. There is not much on either island as far as restaurants, stores, etc. go, so plan on regular trips to the mainland. They seem to be sheltered pretty well from the big storms, but they are only a few feet above sea level. Nice place to visit, but I would probably look more to being in Naples, etc. then full-time on one of those islands. The preserve area on the north side of Sanibel is a very nice place to relax.
 
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fakkin' around with llammas 😲 Is that a similar passtime to what the Welsh do with sheep?

It could well be Chunky! .....😕.... But I think you gotta chase em up hill a bit further in Peru, and the oxygen is a bit scarce up in the Andes mate.😲

I think I'll give it a miss.😁
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Regarding moving ‘out-of-country’:
Thoughts?
Unless you have a trusted adviser(s) that can guide you through all the aspects of setting up in a new country I would expect it to be quite daunting, particularly when another language is involved. Just off the top of my head, there would be legal and tax issues to cover, particularly when shifting assets, hospital/medical support and health insurance, and another consideration should be what happens if/when you become less independent and require more support? Would you be confident to plan on staying in your new country, or are you better off going back to the home country? If the latter, you're adding to the complications because you've got to plan for 2 moves.
 
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👍 the Carolinas are on my list

A cousin of mine and her husband retired to North Carolina. Their rear porch looked out on a large, beautiful golf course. For a year after they settled there, we received glowing reports about how wonderful life was there, and how happy they were. After a year, they couldn’t get out of there fast enough! Fire ants! Infestations everywhere they went. They sold at a huge loss, and moved back to where they had moved from. Pennsylvania.
 
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A cousin of mine and her husband retired to North Carolina. Their rear porch looked out on a large, beautiful golf course. For a year after they settled there, we received glowing reports about how wonderful life was there, and how happy they were. After a year, they couldn’t get out of there fast enough! Fire ants! Infestations everywhere they went. They sold at a huge loss, and moved back to where they had moved from. Pennsylvania.

Fire ants? IT'S ON! I love a good battle. 😉
Fierce and aggressive. Small buggers that bite 50 at a time. Yikes!
 
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We have a trip planned in a few weeks to check out Florida. We think Sanibel island or ft Meyers beach. I get both very different. I'm born and raised in California, but the traffic and cost of everything is too much for me. We have looked at so many other places and we really hope this is a good match. Also, we like going to St Thomas, USVI twice a year, and it's a quick flight from there.
We have a trip planned in a few weeks to check out Florida. We think Sanibel island or ft Meyers beach. I get both very different. I'm born and raised in California, but the traffic and cost of everything is too much for me. We have looked at so many other places and we really hope this is a good match. Also, we like going to St Thomas, USVI twice a year, and it's a quick flight from there.
I've spent quite a bit of time there. Quite a bit. For me FMB...maybe. Sanibel...no. (unless you never want to leave the island or drive anywhere on the island) Try the Panhandle. More? DM me.

have fun
kfw
 
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Hey, hey, hey...when you “drop”...can I have your watches? 👍
Don't hold your breath.

I plan on living forever. So far, so good.
 
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A great thread but mostly about living or retiring in the USA which has been nice to read but its not for me as I plan to stay on the other side of the pond in the UK.

I got made redundant in August 2017 at 56, I had to nurse my wife through major surgery later that year, whilst she was off work convalescing her company went into administration so we were both out of work. Once SWMBO had recovered from her operation her focus was to find a job and continue working, in the meantime I have enjoyed being a house husband, I have no stress anymore (something that had blighted my last years of work), as a result I am so much happier.

All being well in the next 18-24 months we will move from the south east of England to the south west, this is an area where I have holidayed throughout my life and with my wife since we first met, it has a quieter relaxed way of life, lots of countryside and gorgeous coastline to walk and explore in the years ahead, it has great restaurants, good pubs, good food and a wonderful community.

We have one shot at life, one short span of time to get as much from it as we can, I intend to enjoy what time I have left and make the most of every day.

Where ever you choose to live on this blue planet and what ever you choose to do in your retirements have fun and enjoy yourselves. 😀
 
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Regarding moving ‘out-of-country’:

Being on the edge of retirement myself, I’ve also spent a considerable amount of time pondering the why and wherefore of it. For a period of time, I seriously considered moving out of country to someplace seemingly more hospitable. Portugal, for example, is very tempting, as has been discussed here.

But, I already feel plenty alienated in my ‘old age’.

I’ve lost my place in my family.
My relationship with my spouse is not what it was (despite much work)
I’ve lost my role at work.
The region I live in (N. California) is barely recognizable from what it was 20 years ago
The country I live in is barely recognizable from what it was 20 years ago
The world we live in is barely recognizable from what it was 20 years ago

Now, I’m dealing with this stuff. But I’m not inclined to do anything to increase my feeling disconnected.

(I do believe that, by its nature, getting older is an alienating experience. I’m curious to hear how others feel.)

It strikes me that to move to a foreign country in my old age would only deepen my sense of alienation. Particularly where there’s a new language to learn.

And yes, nine years ago, I was seriously considering moving to Brazil (Porto Alegre seems like a beautiful city). Looking at Brazil today, I’m very glad I didn’t do it.

Thoughts?

Beautifully put and I feel the same. But, I have no answers.
 
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Regarding moving ‘out-of-country’:

Being on the edge of retirement myself, I’ve also spent a considerable amount of time pondering the why and wherefore of it. For a period of time, I seriously considered moving out of country to someplace seemingly more hospitable. Portugal, for example, is very tempting, as has been discussed here.

But, I already feel plenty alienated in my ‘old age’.

I’ve lost my place in my family.
My relationship with my spouse is not what it was (despite much work)
I’ve lost my role at work.
The region I live in (N. California) is barely recognizable from what it was 20 years ago
The country I live in is barely recognizable from what it was 20 years ago
The world we live in is barely recognizable from what it was 20 years ago

Now, I’m dealing with this stuff. But I’m not inclined to do anything to increase my feeling disconnected.

(I do believe that, by its nature, getting older is an alienating experience. I’m curious to hear how others feel.)

It strikes me that to move to a foreign country in my old age would only deepen my sense of alienation. Particularly where there’s a new language to learn.

And yes, nine years ago, I was seriously considering moving to Brazil (Porto Alegre seems like a beautiful city). Looking at Brazil today, I’m very glad I didn’t do it.

Thoughts?
Touchy write makes me react, sorry the grammar…

I can only say, that a good place (for one) can have so many variables to foresee that in a moment, you will need a touch of luck to assert.

What can be said? I can only speak with some experience about south America, and I see some advantages over Europe, some.

With the same savings you can be owner of a much bigger property, a Dutch friend with 5 hectares in Holland by 500 in Argentina, 300 km south of Buenos Aires. He is now an ´Estanciero´ (Ranchero, farmer). When a need of culture is needed he travels to Buenos Aires and/or to Amsterdam. Drastic change, but positive in this case.

I myself by a small parcel in the South of Chile (not my country), and build a house, in front of a lake, with the money expended I guess I could only by a 50 square meters apartment in Barcelona, if lucky. I will not retire there but think of spending 30/40 % of the year. It is difficult to transmit the deep wellness we fill under this venture, maybe we were lucky but we risk.

I have no certainty about anything, but dreaming using Google Earth is fascinating and constructive.

Check:

Puerto Varas, Puerto Montt, Lago Rupanco, south of Chile.

Provincia de Buenos Aires, Balcarce, Tandil, Villa La Angostura, Argentina.

New projects, even wrong are a balm, because are new.
 
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But I’m not inclined to do anything to increase my feeling disconnected.

(I do believe that, by its nature, getting older is an alienating experience. I’m curious to hear how others feel.)

It strikes me that to move to a foreign country in my old age would only deepen my sense of alienation. Particularly where there’s a new language to learn.
Sounds like some classic signs of depression. Not a judgement, mind you. Acknowledging and talking about it is often helpful. As I too get older I can relate to new feelings of being disconnected to a place I've lived all my life. It doesn't necessarily mean that I've changed or that I'm to blame/at fault. Part of the fun, I think, is figuring out where I'm supposed to be and how long it'll be until I'll get there.