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the measurements shown are just one snap shot of the tests that the guys do immediately after service to show the difference between before and after

Which is why my first comment was that what was shown is only the start. I do appreciate your point here, but I often see a post on a forum with a watch in one unknown position, in one unknown state of wind, at some unknown point in the servicing process, with glowing words describing the result as excellent.

Well it might be excellent and it might not be. A photo like this tells you something, but it doesn't tell you a lot really. You might very well be happy as a "pig in shit" with the results of the service, but the photo provides such little information it's really impossible to tell.

None of us know the condition of the watch when the service started, if a decision was made not to replace parts that might be worn for financial or other reasons, etc. I think saying that there is an intent to mislead is a bit much...it's just a very incomplete picture of the overall quality of the service.

Cheers, Al

PS - the incorrect lift angle still bugs me... 馃槈
 
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Which is why my first comment was that what was shown is only the start. I do appreciate your point here, but I often see a post on a forum with a watch in one unknown position, in one unknown state of wind, at some unknown point in the servicing process, with glowing words describing the result as excellent.

Well it might be excellent and it might not be. A photo like this tells you something, but it doesn't tell you a lot really. You might very well be happy as a "pig in shit" with the results of the service, but the photo provides such little information it's really impossible to tell.

None of us know the condition of the watch when the service started, if a decision was made not to replace parts that might be worn for financial or other reasons, etc. I think saying that there is an intent to mislead is a bit much...it's just a very incomplete picture of the overall quality of the service.

Cheers, Al

PS - the incorrect lift angle still bugs me... 馃槈

I do understand why you are saying -and (as an uneducated collector) I took on board your first comment as it was meant

the guys have never made any claims about the performance based on the pics -entirely my interpretation
I don't wish to misrepresent the information provided-you'll have to forgive a relative newbs over-exuberant enthusiasm for my initial post

I've now had half a dozen watches with them and each has come back looking great and running great to boot -so I am more than happy
(pigs and shit excepted...)

regards
Philip
 
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the measurements shown are just one snap shot of the tests that the guys do immediately after service to show the difference between before and after

they certainly do not intend to pander to innocents like me

I know that the watches then spend several more days being tested in 'all five' positions before they are happy to release them back into the wild
Exactly this. Mine was running around 25 seconds a day out before service and was showing +17s, 242, 0.6mS on the bench. After service, real life accuracy is running at an average 5s fast per day in normal daily wearing. Which in my non-technical opinion is not bad for a 49 year old watch 馃榾
 
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Exactly this. Mine was running around 25 seconds a day out before service and was showing +17s, 242, 0.6mS on the bench. After service, real life accuracy is running at an average 5s fast per day in normal daily wearing. Which in my non-technical opinion is not bad for a 49 year old watch 馃榾

especially as I read recently that the original specification -50 years ago - for 'exceptionally good results' was 6 secs/day
 
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Timegraphers can also be a bit more informative.
 
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They certainly can...



Yes I slowed it down a bit...馃槈
 
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They certainly can...



Yes I slowed it down a bit...馃槈

Is that an 'angle of dangle ' of 50 I see there? 馃槈
- and yes I know I'm setting myself up for another valuable lesson....
 
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Lift angle of 50, which is what is correct for the movement in question...