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What's the technique used to make the enamel dial on the 50th anniversary speedy?

  1. alecela Jan 11, 2016

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    50th annivesary Speedmaster enamel dial (8).JPG

    The indices, numerals are perfectly printed. Unlike many enamel dials that I've seen from other manufacturers whereas under close inspection, without necessarily use of the loupe, one can start to see all kinds of imperfections such as the dunes on the dial, 'incomplete' print of the numerals... So what's Omega's secret?
     
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  2. M'Bob Jan 12, 2016

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    I don't know that there is a secret per se, as I've examined a couple of the new Tresor enamel dials under the loupe and they all have tiny imperfections. And they of course are newer than the Speedmaster enamel dial. Perhaps you just lucked out with a particularly clean example.

    What does surprise me though, is the sort of lukewarm reception this was has received. Yes, I am aware of all the stated shortcomings, but given that the new Tresor enamel dials are pushing $20,000 USD, an enamel dial Speedy with a decent column-wheel movement seems at present price points to be a bargain.
     
  3. alecela Jan 12, 2016

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    Agree that given the quality of the enamel dial, I think this is a no brainer. As for SOME of those stated shortcomings, I see that as deviation from the 'traditional' speedy but not necessarily as 'short' coming.
     
  4. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 13, 2016

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    I have a 50th Anniversary (Unworn) and the dial is absolutely spot on in terms of finish, i have often wondered the same Q!!
     
  5. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 13, 2016

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    I think it was just the high initial price that put some off, at the time it was nearly 4 times normal Speedmaster pricing in Australia and didn't look all that much different really.
     
  6. alecela Jan 13, 2016

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    Yes, I do agree the high price tag do play a role as far as the general public's concern. I guess that's part of the reasons why it was limited to 1957 pieces as opposed to much higher figures like other Omega's LE series. Personally I think it's a great buy given the quality of the enamel dial execution!
     
  7. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 16, 2016

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    Over in the Uk the price was £5225.
     
  8. tyrantlizardrex Jan 17, 2016

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    To be that much more expensive than a standard moonwatch, it would have to be something special... and for most people it doesn't look all that different...
     
  9. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 17, 2016

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    The movement is the special bit... Manual wind co-ax cal 3201.
     
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  10. Kringkily Omega Collector / Hunter Jan 17, 2016

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    You are also getting that huge wooden box with all the tools and extra strap/deployant and the enamel dial, the special only manual wind co-axial they made. sapphire both sides, etc.
     
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  11. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jan 17, 2016

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  12. Kringkily Omega Collector / Hunter Jan 17, 2016

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    well no box and papers for 6k...
     
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  13. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jan 17, 2016

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    Nice crown..
     
  14. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 17, 2016

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    Yeah the box is super cool! It's actually hand made in Italy!
     
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  15. tyrantlizardrex Jan 18, 2016

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    Gotcha.

    I meant more from a watched in the cabinet next to each other at the AD/Boutique.

    In my (limited) experience, AD/boutique staff tend not to know all that much about their stock... You'd need to know what this was, and go asking for it, to have it sold to you.

    And I know people do that, but a lot more just go buy an expensive watch...

    Got and pictures of the full setup DLT? :)
     
  16. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jan 18, 2016

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    The 3201 is a 3313 with the automatic and date functions removed, so not all that special really.

    To me the enamel dial is what makes the watch expensive, at least if I look at the cost of a replacement dial anyway. That dial costs as much as a whole new Speedy Pro...and I hope for that price is it a true vitreous enamel dial, and not just "acrylic enamel"...

    Okay just checked and the material code is QM for the dial, which is "Metal plate + enamel" so I'm going to assume that is proper vitreous enamel. Given the failure rates on fired enamel dials are fairly high, this would account for the cost being so high.

    Cheers, Al
     
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  17. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 22, 2016

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    I think the other thing that would add to the price is that each of the dials is individually numbered with its own LE production number (xxxx/1957), so they probably wouldn't be able to keep stock and would have to make it specially given the serial of the watch it was going into.
     
  18. tyrantlizardrex Jan 22, 2016

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    Two brand new ones on UK eBay at £5500 a piece...
     
  19. ConElPueblo Jan 22, 2016

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    Special as in not used in other models, at least to my knowledge, I believe is the implication here...
     
  20. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 22, 2016

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    From memory its used in 2-3 other models, or at least an almost identical version is, I think at least one is a museum collection model.