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What to prevent someone dropping Mark II movement into a 145.022 speedy?

  1. axl911 Apr 2, 2016

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    Hi all,

    Hopefully someone can enlighten me on this. What is there to prevent someone from dropping a Speedmaster Mark II movement into a 145.022-7x or -69 case, and try to sell it as such? Aren't they pretty much the same movement with similar range which can then be interchanged?

    Though of paying a lump sum for a 1969-71 speedy, and when the papers come back it says a Speedmaster Mark II scares me.
     
  2. axl911 Apr 2, 2016

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  3. Vercingetorix Spam Risk Apr 2, 2016

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    DeVilles and Seamasters as well. Welcome to the jungle.
     
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  4. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Apr 2, 2016

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    If you can, get the extract first.

    ..but you might miss out on some watches...
     
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  5. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Apr 2, 2016

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    Think that is bad. How about a Seamaster 2907-2 321 movement into your $150,000 Speedmaster 2915-1 ?
     
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  6. sky21 Apr 3, 2016

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    Man, that is just plain depressing right there.
     
  7. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Apr 3, 2016

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    I didn't even change the dial...
    P4030003-001.jpg
     
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  8. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Apr 3, 2016

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    I would think its like an engine from a mgb and putting it into a mgb gt. It's the same engine different body.
     
  9. axl911 Apr 3, 2016

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    Yep. U snooze or hestitated u lose. Like I did on a ST 71 today. :(
     
  10. Tom Dick and Harry Apr 3, 2016

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    Indeed, especially with so many 321 movements of that era ''without extracts"
     
  11. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Apr 3, 2016

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    If you are suggesting any 861 with rounded screw heads is from a Mk. II then that's false. The flat or rounded screws depends more on the age of the watch and really isn't related to what the case reference is.

    Cheers, Al
     
  12. axl911 Apr 3, 2016

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    Do you know when they switched to the rounded screw head? Or under what circumstances would a movement have the round screw head? Just trying to learn....
     
  13. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Apr 3, 2016

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    I haven't studied this as I didn't believe people were being quite this obsessive yet...guess I was wrong on that one! :)

    But from casual observations, it would have been in the early 70's that the change happened. So my own watch, from 1971 has flat headed screws for example. I think if you are looking for some hard and fast rule, you might be disappointed...

    Cheers, Al