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What to do whit this olympic 2850s.c

  1. Skrotis

    Skrotis Apr 26, 2015

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    Hi my name is Patrik coming from Sweden and this is my first post on the forum
    Working in the antique trade the last 15 years and love to buy old watches.

    Watchcase is what it is, not pretty
    When i look on the dial whit the loupe i can detect fragments of enamaly, guess somebody put it in a ultracleaner.
    Could the dial be restored somwhere?

    Grateful for all comments.
    Regards patrik

    thx for looking.
     
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  2. mac_omega Ω 1

    mac_omega Apr 26, 2015

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    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news:

    The dial is near to impossible to bring back to it´s original condition - I had several tries with a dial restorer in Germany - waited 2 years in vain!

    Besides the bad dial the watch has got a wrong crown and the olympic crest is missing on the back.

    It should look like this:
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    The case back and also the main body of the case are well worn or badly polished - not much left of the original chamfers...

    IMHO it is not worth restoring as it is too far gone - take it as a parts donor.

    PS: forgot to mention - originally dial it was not executed in enamel but a special "chinese lacquer"

    regards
    Erich
     
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  3. TexOmega Ω 1

    TexOmega Apr 26, 2015

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    Death by 1000 cuts, someone blow Taps.
     
  4. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Apr 26, 2015

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    After seeing those photos, I lowered the flag to half mast. :(
     
  5. Skrotis

    Skrotis Apr 26, 2015

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    Deep down, i expected that answerIIt hurts to take it apart for donating but life is cruel
    Had a little hope that someone on the forum could help me save it.

    thx for the answers

    regard
    patrik
     
  6. gatorcpa Ω 2

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 26, 2015

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    It's resting!


    This is an ex-watch case.

    Yeah, it's very rarely that I recommend smelters, but in this case, that might be the best option. Keep the dial and movement then look for a non-working version with a decent dial. You'll have some money, a parts movement and extra markers if you need them in the future.

    As for the present, there isn't much that can be done here.
    gatorcpa
     
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  7. AAAKK

    AAAKK First listing in the ΩF B2B phone book Apr 26, 2015

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    Thanks for posting the Python clip, hadn't seen it for a while. Classic!
     
  8. dsio Ω 2

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 26, 2015

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    Was this type of dial one that the Cloisonne restoration specialist bloke in Israel had a go at and pulled off fairly well a year or two ago?

    I totally agree btw, its far too gone as a whole to spend money bringing back, the result could never be anything better than "poor" even after spending the money.
     
  9. gatorcpa Ω 2

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 26, 2015

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    Exact same style:


    http://www.gavdials.com/

    Neither easy nor cheap. I like how he kept the "Swiss Made" and matched the aged lacquer finish to that little bit of the original.

    But then what do you do with the case?
    gatorcpa
     
  10. dsio Ω 2

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 26, 2015

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    A mate in Brisbane has a Jaeger LeCoultre that he had redone with a ship cloisonne (the original was too trashed to ever recover) by the same guy and I have to say he did a stunning job, it looks beautiful in person.
     
  11. GavDials

    GavDials Feb 22, 2022

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    That restoration guy now works at Speculoro workshop :) at www.speculoro.com
    Here's the photos of the restoration for this post's watches dial:

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    There's more images of the restoration process at the Services page here: https://speculoro.com/services/watch-dial-restoration/

    The new website is now open to the public. they specialized in cloisonné enamels watch dial creation and restoration.
    And got lot's of beautiful cloisonné enamel dials available. And will do custom requests and enamel restoration.

    Have fun! :thumbsup:
     
  12. mac_omega Ω 1

    mac_omega Feb 22, 2022

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    TBH I am not convinced this is a good outcome...

    In fact the olympic dial is not an enamel dial but so called "Chinese lacquer" which mimics enamel but is some sort of paint.
     
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  13. GavDials

    GavDials Feb 22, 2022

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    You may be right, that was the request of the dial owner.