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What is your point of view on this 165.024 from1967?

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Hello,

I would like to know your point of view on this 165.024 that I have recently acquired.
An extract of Archive has provided.
Watch is from 1967 and 1039 band is from 1970.
I would to know:
- if the hands and dials react differently under UV, is it normal? Do it means that it has been relumed? The light is very low and decreasing.
- has the case been polished?
- what is the value of it?
- is there a way to find a bezel and inlay at reasonable price?

Many thanks for your help and feedback

Best Regards,

Guillaume
 
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Nice watch!

Sometimes the hands and dial lume react differently. They often also age differently on these. As far as I know, that is because the dials and hands were made by different manufacturers for Omega. It is difficult to say if your hands have been relumed without seeing how the lume reacts to UV light.

The case edges/angles look sharp. It may have been "polished" with something like an abrasive polishing cloth (ie. cape cod cloth), which usually has the effect of wearing away some of the satin brushing it, but it doesn't seem to be signficantly polished. The crown pictured on the watch isn't correct for the model and a later replacement.

The value is up to differing viewpoints. This isn't really a valuation forum and the value will often vary depending on your location. If you want to sell it, the best way to get the market price is to list it in an ebay auction.

Regarding the bezel/inlay: What do you think is reasonable? I think that is the biggest limiting factor to the value of your watch. The watch otherwise looks really nice. A nice original bezel could put this watch near the top end of examples. That being said, many of these bezels don't survive too well. Many have paint, lume loss, or cracks. I've seen some crisp original bezels sells around $1,500 or almost new original bezels sell for over $2,000. However, it depends on the variant you're looking for. I don't see these prices as super unreasoable considering their rarity and how much they impact the appearance and overall value of the watch.

That being said, these bezels aren't made to be seperated from the insert. Finding a nicer orignal insert and installing it isn't really possible. Some people make aftermarket inserts. I've seen nice ones and not so nice ones. Like most things, you get what you pay for.
 
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G Guimey21
I would like to know your point of view on this 165.024 that I have recently acquired.
An extract of Archive has provided.
Watch is from 1967 and 1039 band is from 1970.
I would to know:
- if the hands and dials react differently under UV, is it normal? Do it means that it has been relumed? The light is very low and decreasing.
- has the case been polished?
- what is the value of it?
- is there a way to find a bezel and inlay at reasonable price?

All of the above are questions you should have asked prior to acquiring the watch. Don't you think?
 
southtexas
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Can you get a good, clear macro type shot of the hands?

I love these watches and hope you enjoy it. Have the 5 minute lume markers (7 8 at least) been stabilized? It looks like there is a gloss/stain around them?

There’s a decent bezel on eBay auction, been listed repeatedly for at least for the last month. It’s in good shape except for a crack through the 50. I’ve been watching it for a while, it never gets a bid.

search omega 165.024 bezel on eBay.

(I’m not affiliated with the seller.)
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ndgal ndgal
All of the above are questions you should have asked prior to acquiring the watch. Don't you think?

Hello!
All these questions have been raised...
That is why I am bow asking the support to the forum.
Any help that would help me with what is good or bad on the watch is welcome
Thanks again!
 
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masteroftime masteroftime
Nice watch!

Sometimes the hands and dial lume react differently. They often also age differently on these. As far as I know, that is because the dials and hands were made by different manufacturers for Omega. It is difficult to say if your hands have been relumed without seeing how the lume reacts to UV light.

The case edges/angles look sharp. It may have been "polished" with something like an abrasive polishing cloth (ie. cape cod cloth), which usually has the effect of wearing away some of the satin brushing it, but it doesn't seem to be signficantly polished. The crown pictured on the watch isn't correct for the model and a later replacement.

The value is up to differing viewpoints. This isn't really a valuation forum and the value will often vary depending on your location. If you want to sell it, the best way to get the market price is to list it in an ebay auction.

Regarding the bezel/inlay: What do you think is reasonable? I think that is the biggest limiting factor to the value of your watch. The watch otherwise looks really nice. A nice original bezel could put this watch near the top end of examples. That being said, many of these bezels don't survive too well. Many have paint, lume loss, or cracks. I've seen some crisp original bezels sells around $1,500 or almost new original bezels sell for over $2,000. However, it depends on the variant you're looking for. I don't see these prices as super unreasoable considering their rarity and how much they impact the appearance and overall value of the watch.

That being said, these bezels aren't made to be seperated from the insert. Finding a nicer orignal insert and installing it isn't really possible. Some people make aftermarket inserts. I've seen nice ones and not so nice ones. Like most things, you get what you pay for.

Thanks!
If you know any way to find a new bezel or aftermarket quality one that could be used as a daily one, please advice 😉
Thanks
 
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I would just add that do ask/check that the movement corresponds to the watch and it is good condition, i.e. no water damage etc.
 
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southtexas southtexas
Can you get a good, clear macro type shot of the hands?

I love these watches and hope you enjoy it. Have the 5 minute lume markers (7 8 at least) been stabilized? It looks like there is a gloss/stain around them?

There’s a decent bezel on eBay auction, been listed repeatedly for at least for the last month. It’s in good shape except for a crack through the 50. I’ve been watching it for a while, it never gets a bid.

search omega 165.024 bezel on eBay.

(I’m not affiliated with the seller.)

Hi

Many thanks!
If you have any other way to find a back up bezel and inlay for a daily use! I am interested in...
Best Regards!
 
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sgk sgk
I would just add that do ask/check that the movement corresponds to the watch and it is good condition, i.e. no water damage etc.

Hi
Caliber is 552 and in good condition.
Oil is quite dry (need a servicing) but in good condition 😉
Thanks
 
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southtexas southtexas
Can you get a good, clear macro type shot of the hands?

I love these watches and hope you enjoy it. Have the 5 minute lume markers (7 8 at least) been stabilized? It looks like there is a gloss/stain around them?

There’s a decent bezel on eBay auction, been listed repeatedly for at least for the last month. It’s in good shape except for a crack through the 50. I’ve been watching it for a while, it never gets a bid.

search omega 165.024 bezel on eBay.

(I’m not affiliated with the seller.)
 
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G Guimey21
Hi

Many thanks!
If you have any other way to find a back up bezel and inlay for a daily use! I am interested in...
Best Regards!

If you want a bezel for “daily use” so you don’t damage yours, just get a service bezel. It will be a plastic insert and SuperLuminova, but will be cheaper than trying to find an old one in good condition and a lot better than buying a fake one. Any watchmaker with an Omega parts account can source one for you.
 
Fallout Boy
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I doubt the hands (lume) but the rest is TOP! congrats. Don t worry about the bezel: I have a similar (worn out) - obviously from the same charge (1967/68) 😉 --->>> It s a vintage tool-watch!
 
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Those B4 bezels are usually like this. But its correct bezel for this time period/case. The hands may be relumed in the past, looking to-good-to be true, would expect some signs of black staining where the lume meets the nickel coating of the hand. Case, CB made, looking sharp, crown not original to this model.
The bracelet may be original, as often added later at the AD boutique, at the moment of sale.
Bezel can be restored, or new service bezel can be used...
For daily wear I recommend: New crystal, new case tube+crown+ caseback seal. Keep the original parts stored.
Have it pressure tested.
 
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