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What is the fix when the Chrono second-hand on a 321 does not go back to 12?

  1. pinwizzard Feb 19, 2014

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    DSC08193.JPG DSC08196.JPG DSC08197.JPG I have an 321 from the 1950's and the large second hand for the Chrono function slowly heads toward 1 o clock each time it resets. I have heard of the problem before and any help on how to fix would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. dantaspaulo Feb 19, 2014

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    I'm sure experts will chime in soon soon, but... send it to your watchmaker? :p
     
  3. Barking mad Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Feb 19, 2014

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    A service:)
     
  4. ulackfocus Feb 19, 2014

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    Sacrifice some chocolate to the Watch Gods, and take it to your watchmaker.
     
  5. Time Exposure coordinates his cast with his car's paint job Feb 19, 2014

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    Good luck getting an answer, much less a straight answer! I think it's more complicated than changing straps :(...
     
  6. MASTAR Feb 20, 2014

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    Could be a few things, if it's not resetting at all the lever might have been displaced (shock?) there could be a blockage, cw could have lost tension/loose
    Looks like a full service if you take it to Omega (strongly recommended) $1000+ expect it to go to Switzerland, roughly 10 weeks but it'll be worth it.

    Beautiful watch btw :)
     
  7. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Feb 20, 2014

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    Textbook 321 issue, means its time to call the watchmaker. They're a very good movement and have few issues but this happens to be one of them. Mind you the even better solution is to buy a 320, which never has difficulty with the hours subdial due to the fact that it doesn't have on to go bad :)

    So option A: Spend several hundred having it serviced

    Option B: Spend 4k+ on one of these:

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  8. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Feb 20, 2014

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    hammer issue? might not center. service a good idea; does not have to be omega . any good watchmaker should be able to adjust that. good luck. kind regards. achim
     
  9. Northernman Lemaniac Feb 20, 2014

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    I strongly disagree! Omega is not either value for money nor the right place to have a vintage piece like this serviced.
    Too many members have had their vintage time pieces returned from Bienne in a "as new look" which ruins the vintage market value.

    Depending on where you are in the world, find a proper vintage specialist watchmaker and let him do the job.
    My best advice is to ask here on the forum for recommended watchmakers in your area. It is less than half the time and half the cost of sending to Omega. You will also preserve the value of the beauty you are a lucky owner of...
    I had my 105.003 cal 321 speedy repaired and serviced (complete overhaul) to the highest standards in the UK for less than USD500!:D
     
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  10. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Feb 20, 2014

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    Not at all sorry to tell you this is an issue best addressed and solved by a watchmaker versed in the cal 321. These are no simple bumper and parts are not always easy to source. The fix may be relatively simple, arriving there requires a bit of knowledge and experience. Along the way other issues may be uncovered that are best addressed simultaneously. Get it fixed right.
     
  11. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Feb 20, 2014

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    Can you explain in more detail what the problem is? Dsio talks about the hour recorder, which is a known issue, but your post refers to the central seconds recorder, correct? If so the problem that Dsio mentions does not apply.

    Is the hand not resetting to the 12? If so, then it likely just needs to be removed and set back on in the right location. If it is resetting to the 12 and then creeping, that is very unusual.

    If you can verify what the situation is I might be able to tell you what is wrong.

    Cheers, Al
     
  12. pinwizzard Feb 20, 2014

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    Wow thanks for all of the input. My Dad is an old time watch maker that primarily focused on pocket watches and we have repaired some wrist watches with success but have only worked on a couple of chronos. I collect Omega's which you guys can totally understand and I was hoping someone had this problem before and could give some guidance. The details on the problem are: if I manually pull the central seconds recorder hand and set it at 12 as a starting point, depress the pusher to start the central second center recording hand, stop it and then press the reset pusher, the central second recorder hand lands just before the 12 toward the one. Repeat the process and the central second recorder continues to creep toward the one. Al hoping you can help, Thanks
     
  13. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Feb 20, 2014

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    Sorry I'm even more confused now...

    When you say you "manually pull" The hand are you saying you are removing the hand from the post?

    If so, before you install the hand, start, stop, and then reset the chronograph. Then carefully press the hand back on.

    Now you also say the hand "continues to creep" so does this mean after you reset it, and just let the watch sit, the hand moves? Or does this mean the hand gets further away from the 12 each time you start, stop, and reset the chronograph?

    If it's the former, then I have never seen that happen before. If it's the latter, then the hand is most likely loose on the post, so you need to either tighten up the tube, or get a new hand. There is also a possibility that the rivet is loose between the flat portion of the hand and the tube....this usually results in very random hand positions after resetting though.

    Cheers, Al
     
  14. pinwizzard Feb 20, 2014

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    Al, sorry for any confusion. The hand gets farther away each time the chronograph is reset. It seems like the hand presses on the post but now I am thinking you are correct about it slipping just a little based on the reset action. I will tighten up the tube and try again. Thanks so much for the info, I hope it works. Here is a pic of my favorite Omega Chrono 33.3 ref 2077, got it from a WW2 pilot that bought it at Turler, original dial, enjoy! DSC08198.JPG
     
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  15. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Feb 20, 2014

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    loose hand. kind regards. achim
     
  16. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Feb 20, 2014

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    My mistake I thought you were talking about the hours register