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What happened to new Seamasters 300m?

  1. vadimo Jun 21, 2019

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    Been to regent st to adjust the bracelet link on my 2015 seamaster 300m in blue, looked at new release and only to find that its characteristics have moved on:

    - its larger diameter now at 42mm
    - it's much thicker watch due to new movement
    - wave dial is back

    Overall watch felt much larger comparison to my 41mm, came across as more sport watch especially the wave pattern adding to it, it's no longer that watch that would strike balance between Bern sport and casual.

    Is it just me?

    Is Omega getting desperate? They used to have 2 designs black and blue, now it's like they are getting desperate...



    https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watches/seamaster/diver-300-m/gents-collection/product
     
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  2. Wetworks Jun 21, 2019

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    The Diver 300M has been out for the better part of 8 months. While I understand (and appreciate) your personal observations and concerns, I think you're being a bit unfair as well. The new model seeks to bring back the core aspects of the original (bracelet, wave dial) while incorporating new tech (ceramics, movement) and making improvements (relocation of date window, bracelet fit/adjustment). So yea, it's thicker and larger (by a hair), but most would agree the improvements outweigh that 'sacrifice.'

    As for the "balance between sport and casual" and "2 designs black and blue", I feel you're way off. Overall it's the same watch it was 25 years ago, but with improvements to everything, so style is the same. As for color, the original had at least 4 common colors (white, black, blue, electric blue), to say nothing of special editions (red, grey and green spring to mind). So.....what's the dilemma? If you don't like it, just come out and say so.
     
  3. Steve Essex Jun 22, 2019

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    Funnily enough, I never like the face, the colours, the size, the crystal case-back and the odd-shaped He crown of the latest model.

    I actually tried one on last week, black face and rubber strap and it was bloody gorgeous! Didn’t feel much thicker, if any, to my SMPc that I was wearing at the time and that could be that the back is totally flat and not bevelled like the previous model.
     
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  4. petay993 Jun 22, 2019

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    The new Seamaster has been an outstanding sales success for Omega, so much so that they slapped a 10% price rise on it last month which was a bit cynical. That said it is a good looking piece with an excellent movement and is filling a gap in the market where the Submariner once sat when it was actually readily available.
     
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  5. Stufflers Mom Jun 22, 2019

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    Having had both versions of the SMPc I feel these new models are upgrades in all departments, especially the bracelet which I could never find the correct fit.
     
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  6. petay993 Jun 22, 2019

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    I am quite drawn to the no date, black, Ceramic and Titanium version on rubber. Might be a preowned pickup though as list is a bit of a stretch!
     
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  7. Vega Mike Jun 22, 2019

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    Far from it I feel. My impression is that Omega have strong technical capabilities that they are promoting across their range.

    Like others above have said, the new diver has been a sale success for Omega since it’s launch, re-introducing and updating many of the design elements that made the original watch so popular all those years ago.

    Personally I think it’s great that Omega have continued to evolve the 300 diver with each generation improving all the elements using cutting edge technology that set it apart from other manufacturers. Love it or hate it, the 300 diver has its own DNA that will evolve with each new generation.
     
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  8. 3rdstringholder Jun 22, 2019

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    Yes, it's just you. Far from desperate on Omega's part. What is "Bern sport"?
     
  9. Motik Jun 22, 2019

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    Curious to learn how we can know if a particular model is an "outstanding sale success". Do Omega publish sales figures?

    Regarding the watch itself I can't help seeing it as a bad caricature of the original, painfully adapted to today's marketing requirements. The original design, although definitely dated, has now become a classic.
     
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  10. petay993 Jun 22, 2019

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  11. ConElPueblo Jun 22, 2019

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    While I am not sure what Bern sport is, I agree that it has grown too much now. The versions with the aluminium inlays were the best, IMO - the downward slope began when the thickness increased for the ones with ceramic bezel inlays. Some might say that is only a small size increase, but to me at least that increase matters a lot. Size-wise the Pro is growing closer to the Planet Ocean, which is a shame.


    Well, the bracelet isn't exactly a return to a core aspect, is it? Nor are the ceramics "new tech" - and even discussing "new tech" in mechanical wrist watches is fairly difficult. How can you argue that an improvement (not my favourite term in this hobby, but let's just carry on using it here) in a technology that is long since antiquated is somehow weighing up a (subjective) worsening of the cosmetic factor and ergonomics of what is, basically, a piece of jewelry?
     
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  12. Wetworks Jun 22, 2019

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    Sorry, made my post after a long work day and the laziness showed, but I thought everyone kind of got what I meant, as evidenced by the comments. Anywho, I feel the bracelet is a core aspect, at least design-wise. Naturally the addition of steeper end links to settle the watch into the wrist, the elimination of friction pins, and of course the improved clasp, are changes, but the core of what the bracelet was remains the same IMO.

    What I meant by new tech was the movement, of course. It's a significant improvement over the 1120 and 2500 (although the latter was a bigger leap forward). The size concerns are personal, as are opinions on aesthetics. The thickness increases are the fault of not only the ceramic bezel inlays, but also because of the movements and display backs. Again, for me these are improvements that surpass the concerns of size increases, and Omega's success with the model seem to indicate many others feel the same way. You don't, which is fine. You also, if memory serves, aren't a modern Omega collector. Presumably, watches like this are a reason why. Again, no problem there for me. Your points about tech and watches as a technology are appreciated, but I feel it's a bit off. Sure, we all know they're wrist candy, but they still are purposeful. Additionally, is it wrong to geek out over an 8800 but okay to do so over a 751 simply because of when they were implemented? Both are beautiful, wonderfully engineered movements.

    As for the OP, going shallowly off their profile pic, coupled with the ignorant statement about "2 designs in black and blue" leads me to believe that they are a new owner of the SMPc and, well, are basically saying "mine is the bestestest" or something similar. As the owner of the current version and the original, color me a fan of the new.
     
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  13. AntonisCy Jun 22, 2019

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    Sorry but the latest model is the best Seamaster ever released. And i had most of them at some point.
     
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  14. ConElPueblo Jun 22, 2019

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    Sorry, what? Are you calling me stupid?


    So not "bringing back core aspects" as you wrote but keeping core aspects? That was the part I questioned.


    Those concerns are subjective yes, as are opinions on the changes to the movement. I could argue that since it has become larger and require more specialist knowledge/tools to service, it has become worse. Our viewpoints vary and that is just fine.

    You seem to assume a lot of things here and your tone is frankly quite condescending.

    Also, straw man arguments like this:

    only makes you look insecure in your own argumentation. No-one said anything to that effect.

    That last part about the OP's motives? Really nice way to address your fellow members.
     
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  15. MichaelRay Jun 22, 2019

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    Not just him, I feel the look is going more sport than dress/sport. I wouldn’t call it desperation, but I’m not a fan.
     
  16. 3rdstringholder Jun 22, 2019

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    That's cool....At the end of the day, their only watches. Besides, everyone's opinion is highly subjective.
     
  17. MichaelRay Jun 22, 2019

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    Oh for sure, that’s why it’s great that there’s a watch out there for everybody. Just not a fan of the new dial, don’t think it’s desperation, just going in a different direction.
     
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  18. Wetworks Jun 22, 2019

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    Stupid? No, not at all. If anything I was poking a bit at myself, but whatever. Egoist or insecure? You're pedantic and argumentative as hell, though, so feel free to take me to task for that.

    My 'straw man' was in response to your questioning technology as it relates to a largely antiquated thing. If you don't feel it's apropos, cool, feel free to rail away on that, too.

    That last part? Yea, kill me for having the opinion that the OP is ripping on my (insecure?) and other members new purchases because he doesn't have one and decided to start a thread about it, using wholly inaccurate 'facts' to back up his argument. What's the matter, not enough fodder to go after there?

    Feel free to have the last word, I'll let you cherry-pick and got all frothy for the rest of the membership to delight in reading. I'll keep enjoying my new 300m Diver.
     
  19. dabbispade Jun 22, 2019

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    I always liked it but never bought one as it’s to big for my taste, if it were 40mm I would be all over it !
     
  20. Vega Mike Jun 22, 2019

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    I do like it and am still thinking about it, what's holding me back is that it has no quick set time zone function which I find useful.