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  1. blubarb Aug 24, 2015

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    I am a bit confused on this one. First off, is it a "build-up". The Tachymetre looks right, but from what I can see it's not a DON. And what's with it being a 145.0012, is that a service case back. Can one of our Speedy experts tell me what I am seeing here?

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Very-Rar...ref-1450012-/331622480553?hash=item4d363d7aa9Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

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  2. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Aug 24, 2015

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    My impression is that it is a 105.012-63 with a replacement case back, (note the double zero) and a new dust cover. The serial is way to low and only seen in 105.002 or 105.012.

    As the case is marked it is probably original to the dial and handset, with the caseback and dust cover perhaps being fitted at service?

    The dial and handset do look quite interesting, close spaced T marks, and matching patina on hands and lume, which is a bit weak. Some refer to it as "washed" that is the lume material is missing or removed. I suspect the photo is not helping the general look.

    All it needs is a case back - which wont be easy, because it has to be a 105.012-63
     
  3. JohnSteed Aug 24, 2015

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    Hi. No need to be confused
    Believe your eyes. Unattractive dial from pics IMHO, bezel, dust cover and caseback are replaced. Movement serial is 20 millions so not correct for this reference, years too early

    You can make an offer it its your 'cup of tea' but could the movement be a mish mosh of parts...? For one thing that coupling yoke doesn't seem in good shape
     
  4. JohnSteed Aug 24, 2015

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    Took me a while but possible, if lucky...
     
  5. blubarb Aug 24, 2015

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    my gut feeling is good but my knowledge slow to catch up, but it is. I suppose being confused is about uncertainty which is good because it makes me critical. I guess I will know the right one when it turns up and just hope my monetary ducks are ready to go. I think what initially threw me was the .0012 as I thought the .00 refers to replacement part and also I don't get a bezel with an accent over the E not being a DON. I can't find one like it in my MWO book.
     
  6. Davidt Aug 24, 2015

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    I think it's a complete franken. The whole case looks new to me, the serial is too low for a '66 or '67 yet it has wide T's which appeared in '66 iirc.

    I think it's been made up from a mixture of new parts and old parts from at least two watches.

    I wouldn't go anywhere near that watch.
     
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  7. blubarb Aug 24, 2015

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    Plus I didn't like the way the photos almost hid the 90 dot and I still can't see where that dot next to the 70 is.
     
  8. flame Speedmaster Neil Aug 24, 2015

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    Hi

    I would be very wary of this Watch....Spacefruit's point's are all good , however @ £3.5k or near offer makes it a high risk purchase.

    If you were going to ' bid ' him on it , what would you discount by ? 30%+ ? :whipped:

    Perhaps wait for the next one to come along....and pay a bit more & get a really good one....

    Best - Neil
     
  9. ewand Aug 24, 2015

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    I think I've seen that one before and the photo angles that basically hide the 90/70 dots made me suspicious from the start...
     
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  10. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Aug 24, 2015

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    I think I may have been hasty - I too was thrown slightly by the photo angle and missed the wide T spacing - incorrectly calling it narrow above.

    In which case the dial is too early to be on a -63, from what I have seen in other watches.

    Also the asymmetric bridge is unusual on this serial, its right on the time it changed - i don't know enough about this serial's bridges and not about to open up some watches to look!

    Taking into account the dial, I would have to come down on the side of an assembly.
     
  11. Blaise Aug 24, 2015

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    Not worth 3.5 in MY book
     
  12. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Aug 24, 2015

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    Of that no question.
     
  13. blubarb Aug 25, 2015

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    Thanks, guys. I think we are all on the same page with this one. And so the search continues...
     
  14. blubarb Aug 28, 2015

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    This is one of the nicest "Ed White" 105.003 I have seen in a long while - It's a shame the Aussie dollar isn't performing better against the USD. This puts the watch for me with duties and taxes closer to AUD16,000 - that's a big price. I can only keep dreaming. I think the price of these has peaked even for great examples. Can you see any flaws in this one? Opinions?

    http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=423908

    Cheers
     
  15. emilio Aug 28, 2015

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    Yes a beauty indeed.. Although the price is very high I might even think it is worth the money :confused:

    Did I really say that?
     
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  16. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Aug 28, 2015

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    Interesting colors for lume. So even and unblemished.

    And a very strong price. There's one at European Watch Co in the same range, complete set too, both have sat for a while.
     
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  17. blubarb Aug 28, 2015

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    Exactly.
     
  18. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Aug 29, 2015

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    I agree. The movement says 63. The dial says 66. Pass on this one.