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What are the odds this makes it through Ebay's authentication program?

Franco
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I though that you need to choose, as a seller, the authentication option. This one must be truly in good faith and unaware of the garbage is selling (possible, he/she mostly sells Pokemon cards), or momentarily insane.
 
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Franco Franco
I though that you need to choose, as a seller, the authentication option. This one must be truly in good faith and unaware of the garbage is selling (possible, he/she mostly sells Pokemon cards), or momentarily insane.

I've yet to be offered any authentication option; if you cross a certain price threshold, you're getting authenticated, at least from what I've seen.
 
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very good. I don't think the authenticators are on the ball TBH...

I'd second this. I recently bought a white gold no-lume Rolex 1803 that was rejected by the authenticators, who claimed it was a redial. I'm almost sure it wasn't, but, like all no-lume 1803s, it had T Swiss Made T at the bottom of the dial, which I presume made the authenticators (a small shop in Ohio, fwiw) reject it.

I think we'll see this continue, especially on older watches. It's really, really too bad. They're ruining the platform in this way.
 
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I'd second this. I recently bought a white gold no-lume Rolex 1803 that was rejected by the authenticators, who claimed it was a redial. I'm almost sure it wasn't, but, like all no-lume 1803s, it had T Swiss Made T at the bottom of the dial, which I presume made the authenticators (a small shop in Ohio, fwiw) reject it.

I think we'll see this continue, especially on older watches. It's really, really too bad. They're ruining the platform in this way.
Very interesting. I wonder if they have some liability with Ebay if they make a mistake and are being "over-protective" or something.
 
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timoss timoss
Very interesting. I wonder if they have some liability with Ebay if they make a mistake and are being "over-protective" or something.

Agreed; I also wonder what recourse, in that case, the buyer had to dispute the claim. We're talking about extremely narrow ranges of expertise. What would an authenticator do with a 145.012 with a square-end chronograph seconds hand, and what option would the seller have? The more this system's established, I think the dicier such questions will get.
 
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From what I have read it applies to all watches that sell for over $2000.

It is an eBay service that is put in place by eBay, not the seller or buyer. It is their attempt to make eBay a more trust worthy market for watches.
 
abrod520
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From what I've gathered so far, this watch has the same 40% chance of passing and going through the authentication program unscathed / 60% chance of passing and arriving the buyer with missing parts.

That it's an egregious fake won't have any bearing on the process.
 
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Also, be aware that if the watch is sold to a seller outside of the continental U.S., it will not go through the authentication process.

"Items that are listed on eBay.com from sellers located in Japan, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, Germany, South Korea and Italy for delivery to a buyer located within the US are eligible for Authenticity Guarantee - check back for additional countries to be added. However, items that ship to a buyer address outside the continental U.S. are not eligible for the program."
 
timoss
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Darlinboy Darlinboy
I hope you are not testing the system by purchasing it! 😲
Definitely not! Though there is a 30-day return window.
 
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This watch is sold on a Japanese website called Mercari.
The ebay seller is reselling the watch on ebay without permission from the Japanese seller, even though the watch is not in his possession.
The ebay seller has added his own profit to the selling price in Japan.

The Japanese sellers provide a little more detail in their product descriptions.
Here is a link to the Japanese seller's product.
If you are interested, take a look.
https://www.mercari.com/jp/items/m20410641981/
 
jaegodylan
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In case you don’t speak
Japanese

“
OMEGA Omega seamaster 300 Seamaster self-winding antique British military replica? is.

The caliper is genuine OMEGA, so you can overhaul it at the OMEGA shop. The former owner has overhauled at the Shinsaibashi store. I heard that it was handed over from the grandfather of the previous owner. Since it is old, please refrain from those who are concerned about scratches.

I think the tritium display T on the dial has been redone. The spring bar is not a dead end. The windshield does not seem to be genuine. Please use the NATO belt as an extra.

Regarding use, there is no problem as it is working smoothly.
Please refrain from purchasing those who are particular about military originals and those who are fine.

Since it is antique, we cannot accept returns, so please check carefully with questions and images, and bid only for those who are satisfied. This time, I will put it up for the purpose of organizing the collection.

* The 10th NATO strap will also be a collaboration (I'm sorry I forgot the artist's name).

Please note that this is the first time for mercari to be exhibited, so contact may be delayed.”
 
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Wlcutter Wlcutter
I'd second this. I recently bought a white gold no-lume Rolex 1803 that was rejected by the authenticators, who claimed it was a redial. I'm almost sure it wasn't, but, like all no-lume 1803s, it had T Swiss Made T at the bottom of the dial, which I presume made the authenticators (a small shop in Ohio, fwiw) reject it.

I think we'll see this continue, especially on older watches. It's really, really too bad. They're ruining the platform in this way.

Seems dubious now, but an eBay rep called me and asked about this. Gave my view, couple examples, and that was it. Authentication still offered by them, and don:t think I:ll ever send to their service. If the day ever comes when that cannot be avoided the sale will simply be voided, by me. Since the inception i think i have sold a couple pieces there over 2k and have not sent it for authentication
 
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