Were these Seiko made Honda F1 models?

m neuman

Here are a few Seiko ones

o Examples

M mountainunder

These watches were sold in Japan in the 90's at the "Honda Official Wear & Goods Online Shop". They were probably manufactured by Seiko on behalf of Honda. That's why you can't see Seiko's name on it.

The Japanese on the warranty card and tag attached to the first watch is correct. The engraving on the movement shows that it was made at Seiko's Shiojiri factory.

The ebay seller of the second watch and the Japanese seller I linked to are different people.

Here is a link to information on these watches that have been traded in Japan in the past.
https://aucfree.com/items/b326256501
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k478610514
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m475622254

Sorry I can't be of much help.

Honda's first F1 race was in 1964.

m neuman

Here are a few Seiko ones

o Examples

Silversix

Yea, i know of these two. They look very similar in styling to the first watch i posted, that's why i wanted to know if its a Seiko made watch or not.

vitriol

But you need to know;
1.) have they been made by Seiko, just not branded with 'Seiko' but branded 'Honda' for the internal use of the F1 Team?
or 2.) if 1 is true - are they genuine or fake?

Re 2, well.. given how old and uncommon those watches are I think it will be very hard to find black or white answer. I see no red flags, everything looks crisp and those are genuine imo.

Re 1, I think they are Seiko made.
Here:

This number is case (reference) number. Tri-segmential number, just like Seiko numbers their cases.
In Seiko those segments say:
A is a movement cased in,
B says the overall shape, style of the case, sometimes colour variation too,
C says how glass is installed.

Yet, I have not seen any other manufacturer who uses a similar segments for case reference numbers.
For me everything sums up into - "Seiko watch but branded Honda".

Silversix

Interesting. I have seen some Ferrari watches made in the 80's by Cartier, and just like these Honda watches, there's no Cartier branding anywhere to be seen on the watch, manual or box.

vitriol

Haven't Panerai made something for Ferrari too?
Do you collect F1 themed watches btw?

Vercingetorix

Girard Perregaux probably made the best looking Ferrari watches.

Vercingetorix

Girard Perregaux probably made the best looking Ferrari watches.

Foo2rama

Yes