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Weird radial / Alaska 3 style on ebay

dsio
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Just saw this pop up on ebay, a radial / Alaska 3 style dial with period hands, modern bracelet, wonder if its a parts bin special of what? Seller is asking 20k which is a lot for a franken but a lot less than any legit radial dial.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144697996059

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Scarecrow Boat
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Looks like the dial was refinished. There are no serifs to be found anywhere. Specially so in the sub dials. Also, the minute/hour indicator markers in each subdial are solid blocks as opposed to the image below. There are also, seemingly, no concentric circles.

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And the eBay listing for easy comparison
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Ree
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These things been going round for quite some time. Hint at 10 and 11
 
blubarb
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Ree Ree
These things been going round for quite some time. Hint at 10 and 11

What do you mean hint at 10 and 11? - on the subdial?

Ignore. Saw it after a closer look. 🤦
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blubarb blubarb
What do you mean hint at 10 and 11? - on the subdial?

Ignore. Saw it after a closer look.
9-11-10-12 😵‍💫
 
Scarecrow Boat
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Ree Ree
These things been going round for quite some time. Hint at 10 and 11
Haha! I had t even noticed that until just now. 🤦
 
Scarecrow Boat
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The seller says this in the description: “Error on a subdial. This error makes this dial very unique and Special and one of a kind.”

No, no it doesn’t.
 
sheepdoll
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Ree Ree
These things been going round for quite some time. Hint at 10 and 11
Once you see it. you can not unsee it.
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This is a bit off topic from the original post, but related and maybe not worth it's own thread.

I'm curious if anyone knows if there is some logic behind the apparently inconsistent orientation of the markers at 120° and 240° of the subdials (on the authentic radial dial).

From what I understand, the Alaska II dial has all markers from 120° to 240° oriented bottom out from the center. The Alaska III and later radial dials seem to have 10, 20, 8, and 40 oriented bottom in towards the center.

It seems like a deliberate decision, but I can't make sense of it or find any mention of it (I'm not Speedmaster savvy, though, so I'm probably not looking in the right places). Do you think NASA asked for this modification?
 
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dsio dsio
Just saw this pop up on ebay, a radial / Alaska 3 style dial with period hands, modern bracelet, wonder if its a parts bin special of what? Seller is asking 20k which is a lot for a franken but a lot less than any legit radial dial.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144697996059

2B5411F7-B615-4F56-8443-DD508991FF15.jpeg
Error on a subdial
 
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Archer
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Olhenry56 Olhenry56
This is a bit off topic from the original post, but related and maybe not worth it's own thread.

I'm curious if anyone knows if there is some logic behind the apparently inconsistent orientation of the markers at 120° and 240° of the subdials (on the authentic radial dial).

From what I understand, the Alaska II dial has all markers from 120° to 240° oriented bottom out from the center. The Alaska III and later radial dials seem to have 10, 20, 8, and 40 oriented bottom in towards the center.

It seems like a deliberate decision, but I can't make sense of it or find any mention of it (I'm not Speedmaster savvy, though, so I'm probably not looking in the right places). Do you think NASA asked for this modification?

Having the numerals oriented differently is different sections around the dial or sub-dial, is the "radial flip" and it annoys the heck out of me.
 
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Having the numerals oriented differently is different sections around the dial or sub-dial, is the "radial flip" and it annoys the heck out of me.
I think @Olhenry56 was referring to the inconsistent radial flipping Omega has used on the Alaska Project dials.

Take the Alaska Project III and Speedy Tuesday #1 dials, on the minute counter dial they don't use radial flipping EXCEPT for the '15' minute marker. On the hour counter dial they use the classic radial flipping starting with the '4' marker and continuing to the '8' marker. But on the constant second subdial they really are inconsistent. They flip the '20' and '30' markers but DON'T flip the '40' marker, it's just a very inconsistent use of radial flipping. I don't know whether this was a mistake in the original Alaska Project III dial and they figured they would just carry on the tradition in the Speedy Tuesday #1 reedition, or whether there is some reason behind it. I would guess it was an error that they didn't correct in the ST#1 dial.
 
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Yes, consistent or not it's incredibly annoying...
 
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I didn't look as close at the dial, but if someone here bought this watch they need a refund. The swiss text at the bottom is a red flag as the "buy american act" forced Omega to use the michigan based star watch case company and the non-swiss marked dials. Others posted high-res pics of the automatics. The speedsonic variety shares the same markings. My dial has very faint concentric ridges in the subdials. It's probably why they landed in the Omega watchmaker's spare parts stash.

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