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Watches with applied sector dials

  1. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Apr 1, 2019

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    For the record. Serial 6112367.
     
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  2. MikeMan2727 Apr 1, 2019

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    Lovely dial. Are the hands original to the watch?
     
  3. jerryct Apr 1, 2019

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    This one has a lovely dial !
     
  4. Radiumpassion Apr 2, 2019

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    I agree with @DirtyDozen12 that this dial would look more plausible
    in the first generation TT case, but the market thougt otherwise.

    3300£ for a 32,5mm must be some kind of record?:)
     
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  5. timex Apr 2, 2019

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    That's a hefty price for a franken watch. Wish I'd saved the pics. when it sold for 400 Euro's on ebay in a different case ::facepalm2::
     
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  6. bimbim1207 Apr 2, 2019

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    I strongly believe this one is a redial though I’m not an expert. There are certain inconsistencies on this one.
     
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  7. bimbim1207 Apr 2, 2019

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    I was told. That's damn bad... The hands do not look like a match imo.
     
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  8. timex Apr 2, 2019

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  9. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Apr 2, 2019

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  10. vujen Apr 2, 2019

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    we still have to see if the buyer will pay. ebay is a mess in these years.
     
  11. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Apr 2, 2019

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    I knew what you were alluding to sounded familiar — but are you sure the watch you saw was really the same? I think there’s a fair chance the one you saw is below.

    I saved these pictures on December 8, 2018.
    The hands are similar. The indexes are not raised even though the pattern is similar- however one dial has numerals and the other doesn’t.
    And this watch is definitely a franken as the serial number on the case (from about 1937) ought to be the same as the one on the movement- which it isn’t. The movemnt serial is from the 1940s.
     
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  12. timex Apr 3, 2019

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    Your archive is much better than mine :) That's the once indeed. Exactly the same hands but not raised. Interesting...!
     
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  13. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Apr 3, 2019

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    Memory can play tricks...... so documentary evidence is key.
    That’s right, hands are the same shape, silver colored steel vs blued steel that’s been painted or lumed on the cushion case.
    So there’s no evidence they’re replacements even if there’s no evidence they’re original.
     
    Edited Apr 21, 2019
  14. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Apr 3, 2019

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    According to an astute member, my post above is rather opaque. To elucidate, I contacted Longines and inquired about 6'112'367. As it turns out, there is information regarding the original dial in the archive. It is indicated that the original dial should not be black, but rather another color.

    Given the value of larger tre tacches, these swaps will be become more and more prevalent.
     
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  15. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Apr 21, 2019

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    For the record, those are references bearing an applied sector dial.
    The fact this 32mm reference is not specifically well known or subject to speculation makes me believe those dials are original to the watches. Also interesting to see the matching baton hands on both examples.
     
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  16. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Apr 21, 2019

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  19. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Jul 16, 2019

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    Not an applied sector dial, but probably soon coming to a tre tacche near you— as @Radiumpassion once said so aptly.
     
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  20. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept May 31, 2020

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    Thanks to @DirtyDozen12 , 6112367 now appears to have --thankfully--recovered its original dial.
    Clearly much more correct period-wise, and it's a nice watch.
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