scrap value looks about 500 on this. sales price pretty close. is there no premium for real gold?

 

theres a spring there that looks kind of loose and disorganized.

i think i could love this watch.

 

500 what currency? Pesos?

I think your calculation of scrap value on this watch is a bit off.

The case only (without movement, dial, crown, etc.) might (!) have a mass of 15-20g - but this is not pure gold!
It is 9K which is an alloy of roughly 1/3 gold content only
So do the math...

at 15g it is 177 pounds or 225 US$
at 20g (which is an optimistic estimate) it is 236 pounds or 300 US$

 

ah. that makes sense. i was thinking 33 gms based on sloppy quick internet research.

 

maybe this ones close to scrap...looks chunky. seems like a free watch almost...

 

it would make sense that the bottom value for any precious metal watch would be somewhere below (but relatively close to) the scrap value

 

in the past ive scrapped a few gold cases on broken watches usually mens cases are around 10g

 

9k is not considered "gold" here...minimum in many places is 10k.

 

this was the thread where i got 33 grams for a dennison case' which is the case above.

33 grams x .375 is 12.375 x 43 a gram equals about 500.

 

ive never had any gold jewelry but a'wedding ring. is .375 in watches really undesireable?

 

I'm just saying that laws in different countries will mean that some many not value a 9k watch very much.

 

It sounds a bit odd but 9k can be quite sought after as it’s often less “yellow” than higher purity alloys, and yellow gold is generally not the most popular color. Also I believe it’s harder wearing.

 

Would definitely be harder wearing as there's less gold. Colour is a different thing though, because there are standards for that so yellow gold can be more or less yellow irrespective of the amount of gold.

Omega uses 3 shades of yellow gold, so 1N - pale yellow, 2N - light yellow, and 3N - yellow. These shades all exist within the same gold content, but I can see how having only 9k would limit how yellow the case looked I suppose.

Cheers, Al

 

To follow up Al's post: in France, solid gold is typically 18k.
But I have some 9k Dennisson gold watches...

As far as color is concerned, I like 18k yellow gold as it usually has a deeper color than 14K or 9k. And If I want something different, I prefer 18k rose gold. But 9k is nice as well and is usually much cheaper.

By the way, a lug of a 18k rose gold omega I own broke a week ago. The watch is a Tresor, a collection which usually has less gold content. Just an example of the advantage of 9k - and of 18k with more gold content!

 

9k in gold is totally sensible for a watch as it will be much harder than 14k or God forbid 18k. you can practically bend 18k gold with your hands it's so soft, and it will get dings just from being near a sharp object!

 

sorry to hear that can you share how the breakage happened? any pics of the broken lug?

 

I have owned several 14k and 18k watches and changed the strap on them hundreds on times. No problems what so ever.

 

and I have warped the lugs and caseband on a thin 18k case doing this so it does happen but the quality of build will obviously effect the likelihood of it happening.

 

On some of the gold Chronographe Suisse models the case weight will be even less than that but the caseback alone on the Omega below is over 8g. I would estimate the total case gold weight for this one in the pic at nearer 30g of 18k. You get value for money on the fat lug gold models! Perhaps this is like the one Greasemonkey referred to above.

 

I'm regularly asked to weight some cases, 33g would be a heavy well made pocket watch, it is exceptional for a wristwatch. A good wristwatch (last Longines case I saw) was 14g, it is often around 10g indeed. Hollow chronographe suisse cases from the 1940s are even less, at around 6g: those are very frail.

FYI, in France 18k gold is usually used for cases. Anything less is foreign. At roughly 18-20€ per gram of 18k, that's 200€ of scrap value for a common gold wristwatch if you buy it sight unseen.