Would love to hear some informed commentary on this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IMPORTANT-V...069462622?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item1c304d645ePurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network Dunno why but that dial looks familiar to me Missing movement shot, inner caseback...seems like a bold ask.
Watch has been listed several times on ebay with the same asking without resulting in a sale. It is a very uncommon case ref. 2077 (screwback case - all the other case references for the 33.3 were snapback) with the complicated tele-tachy dial. About the only thing that would make the watch more desirable is if the dial patina was less. Price is not totally unreasonable - the 2077s with original dials go anywhere from $5-10k (simple dials with watch listed on ebay) to over $50k (complicated black dials listed sold at christies): http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/...-unusual-stainless-steel-4982969-details.aspx As I said, the asking price is not wholly unreasonable - would want to see a movement shot but not concerned about the inner caseback since the outer caseback pretty much tells me what I need to know (inner caseback will only say acier staybrite as the case serial is stamped in the outer caseback and shielded from view in the seller's pics).
This is a grail for me and hope to own a 2077 with this sort of dial someday. I've neglected the 33.3 in my vintage omega collection and am hoping 2013 is the year to fix that. It's a pretty uncommon movement - only 14,000 movements were produced over almost 20 years (and who knows how many still remain today?) - so nice 33.3 chronographs typically get sold at Christies.
Meanwhile I have to content myself with two chronographs (among the very, very few non-omega watches that I own) that have pretty much the same movement but branded tissot and lemania respectively. The tissot is in a gold plated case and the lemania is in a steel case.
hmmm..... the "hole" in the 11 o`clock lug looks like the customs stamp from portugal at the time...... any other customs stamps pics. here ? kind regards. achim
I have been watching this piece for quite a while - relisted several times... I would not mind the patina if there were not 2 issues: 1) the areas around "Tachymetre" , Telemetre and Base" are bright silver whereas the rest of the dial is evenly patinated - so most likely a "not so smart" person has "cleaned away" the patina in the described places which lowers the value dramatically IMHO... 2) Said this IMO the asking price is pretty steep! I would feel comfortable around 8-10K in this condition. just my 2 cents erich
Erich, I would agree the asking price is too steep for me as well but disagree about the dial observations - don't think this dial was cleaned. Have seen a few of these patinated, complicated dials where those words tachymetre and telemetre are "highlighted" in that way Mike
I actually think the patina on the eBay watch is pretty cool and if I were looking for one of these I'd have to seriously consider it. The only problem for me is at 23k were in patek territory...
But here's the thing - what kind of patek would you get at $20k? A nice time only vintage gold model? I think this is a much more interesting buy and would probably an even better investment.
Completely agree. Every time I come to the brink of a Patek or vintage Rolex purchase, I think what else I could get for that money, and I walk away...I won't say without a second thought, but I've yet to have one enter the top 10 of my regret list.
Personally, I'd go with this one. Same asking price http://www.ebay.com/itm/Patek-Phili...004404577?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item19d860cb61Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
Different strokes - what makes this hobby nice. Don't like the patek nautilus and even if you did, you could always buy it if you had the money any day of the week including sunday! You probably get to buy a watch like that omega once or twice a year!
...and with the Nautilus, it wouldn't be long before you saw your watch on another person's wrist. An Omega 33.3...that might take a while.
And one more thing - the vintage watch enthusiasts who have been at this hobby for at least a few years will agree with me that the hunt and the eventual find is almost as satisfying as the watch itself. I'm sure we all have tales to tell about some of these pieces - in fact sometimes I want to keep the watch not because it is very valuable but because the story associated with its find is priceless.
Interesting observation. Seller says bought in Austria. But in 1945, I'd say anything was possible! I have this one, actually from Portugal
I happen to know the guy who vetted that Conquest knows a thing or two about them. Sweet watch, ain't it?