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Vintage Speedmaster : (Again) please feel free to destroy this

  1. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Mar 21, 2017

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    Hi folks

    It is me, once again, asking for all the knowledgable vintage owners (aka vets) to destroy a watch. This time, however, I am interested in purchasing, and have contact with the seller...

    145.022-68 - transitional 1968

    For my untrained eye (thanks once again to the kind folks of Speedmaster101 (as well as @Kmart and @Foo2rama for their great advice and pointing me to the 101 site) -> have totally destroyed my retinas on their awesome site) only 'funnies' i can see are
    - bezel (looks service to me)
    - chrono hand (looks funky, lume patina not the same age -> but here I may be totally wrong)

    Other than that
    - dial decent and original
    - case back and number
    - movement serial number
    - movement has no graunched screws...its a dark shot but i dont really see any mismatches...

    All welcome to destroy it.

    Many thanks for your time. Any of you folks near CH soon (i.e. Baselworld :) ), feel free to hit me up for a beer :)

    Best regards,
    Eugene
     
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  2. SpeedyPhill Founder Of Aussie Cricket Blog Mark Waugh Universe Mar 21, 2017

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    Movement number is beyond 26555xyz so that's good :cool:
     
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  3. Speedmasterfan88 Mar 21, 2017

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    Hi @eugeneandresson, other than what you pointed out already (I'm far from being an expert)
    I think this should come on a 1039 or early 1171 bracelet.
     
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  4. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Mar 21, 2017

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    Hi @Speedmasterfan88 , Bracelet 1116 with 575 endlinks, according to the seller...

    I still cant help to feel this deal is too good to be true...
     
  5. watchlovr Mar 21, 2017

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    Minus points that I can see; (I don't have my bible with me ATM)
    Wrong second sweep
    Wrong bezel insert
    Most of the tritium has gone from the dial
    Bracelet looks pretty knackered

    All down to price I guess.
     
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  6. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Mar 21, 2017

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    Thanks @watchlovr ...
     
  7. Banner Roar Mar 21, 2017

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    Could be the angle of the photos but the chrono and min are short. Face on pictures would be better.
    Bezel is wrong which would be a 2500-3000USD cost to put right
    Don't like that the lume has been removed. Looks like the watch has been prepared for sale.
     
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  8. Speedmasterfan88 Mar 21, 2017

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    Oh well, just checked against this chart
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    and this was indeed issued with the Speedy between 67-71.... learn something new everyday .. ;).
     
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  9. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Mar 21, 2017

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    Thanks @Banner Roar , yeah, 2.3~3k ... nuts :) But this guys is definately asking a low price...
     
  10. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Mar 21, 2017

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    Wow, love the table!
     
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  11. Badwolf Mar 21, 2017

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    I think the bracelet is ok for the age, just not as desirable as a 1039.

    The bezel is the biggest issue, case looks reasonable.

    Hope you get a good deal :)
     
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  12. Speedmasterfan88 Mar 21, 2017

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    Check the hour subdial chrono hand ... not centered while chrono not running... well known issue of "chronocreep" maybe. But this is nothing serious and usually sorted out with a service.
     
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  13. Speedmasterfan88 Mar 21, 2017

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  14. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Mar 21, 2017

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    Thanks @Badwolf ... lets see what tomorrow brings :)
     
  15. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Mar 21, 2017

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  16. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Mar 21, 2017

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    Disagree on hand lengths being wrong. Look at same year and earlier examples.
     
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  17. Davidt Mar 21, 2017

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    The only thing I'd add is that the case doesn't look great. The edges look soft like it's been no stranger to the polishing wheel. That coupled with the bezel are two big issues for me. The dial looks reasonable in general but appears to have lost around 1/3 to 1/2 of its lume.

    What price are we talking?
     
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  18. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Mar 21, 2017

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    Hi
    Hi Davidt

    Thanks for reply. Yeah, dial should have more lume :) Guy wants 2500. But I am now getting more convinced it's a scam...since contact was started (roughly the time of the original post) his replies have been strange, with misinformation that doesn't match his profile.

    So I drop it, and trust in karma.
     
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  19. Kmart Mar 21, 2017

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    Personally I would hold out for a more attractive example anyway. The dial on this one just looks bad in my opinion, and the incorrect bezel would be a huge headache + much more money down the line.
     
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  20. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Mar 21, 2017

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    Thanks @Kmart . No rush here. The longer I wait spending hard earned cash on vintage the sooner I can spend same cash on future vintage :) Not sure if I bought such an old one that I would try make it original. Dial and hands and movement are most important to me, other exterior items i guess depend on price.

    There are 2 birthyear Speedies I would really like to get my hands on...a 79, and a 2007...so regardless of above, I am looking :) At some point I will be allowed to post WTB for these, but again, no rush.

    Best regards,
    Eugene