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Vintage Speedmaster - “I wear it in the pool”...

  1. padders Oooo subtitles! Sep 21, 2019

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    See above. You are beginning to sound like Comical Ali. There’s not a lot of point arguing when you have so comprehensively undermined your own point.
     
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  2. gostang9 Sep 21, 2019

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    Title of the thread is about wearing a Speedy in a pool, multiple supporting evidence and arguments to justify that 50m means 50m. No use participating any further, as clearly words don’t matter (can mean the reverse apparently, even though refuted only by exclusion of some other specific activity...).

    I'm done here. Those who want to take Omega at their word that 50m means 50m have ample support. Those who insist they won’t get their Speedy’s wet can continue avoiding water (no one ever said they should), and those who want to spread false opinions will not be persuaded by logic and reason (as they didn’t use it to base their initial opinions on it anyhow).

    Since this thread is seriously lacking pictures, (and some levity)...

    Suicidal Speedy:
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    Speedy within 50cm of danger:
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    Too late, Speedy submersed in 50mm if water:
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  3. Stufflers Mom Sep 21, 2019

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    Nice photos, but I'd like to see where it's written that Omega make the claim that 50m means 50m?
     
  4. tyrantlizardrex Sep 21, 2019

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    I’d like to see the where Omega make the claim that 50m does not mean 50m.
     
  5. tyrantlizardrex Sep 21, 2019

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  6. Stufflers Mom Sep 21, 2019

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    If you look and read you will see it for yourself, it quite clearly explained in words and pictures, so
    washing the dishes, yes,
    getting caught in the rain, yes,
    taking a shower, yes,
    swimming, yes.
    Snorkelling and scuba diving, no.
    The little picture icons are the key as it's incredibly difficult to swim at a depth of 50m while keeping your head out of the water.

    Hopefully that has cleared it up for you.

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  7. JwRosenthal Sep 21, 2019

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    SNORKEL! Put them pints back!

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  8. tyrantlizardrex Sep 21, 2019

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    @Stufflers Mom just in case you missed the above post: 50 meters, means 50 meters - and so say Omega.



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  9. BlackTalon This Space for Rent Sep 21, 2019

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    lack of an 'ignore' feature is really frustrating.
     
  10. M'Bob Sep 21, 2019

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    "50m by any other name would still be as deep."

    -William Shakespeare
     
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  11. saulgoodman Sep 21, 2019

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    Hilarious! Thanks for that. This thread quickly deteriorated into everything that is wrong with the Internet. In the end, do what you want. Having said that, there a plenty of examples of Speedy's getting dunked in pools and oceans that lived to tell about it. Perhaps they are all just lucky, or perhaps 50m does mean 50m. For whatever it is worth, my watch guy, who is a very experienced and respected craftsman, told me when I asked him about pressure testing my Seamaster the other day that he wouldn't take my money for that, but he would check the gaskets on my watch. If the gaskets are sound, the watch is resistant to moisture, if they are not, it isn't. Ergo, Speedy's with sound gaskets are water resistant to 50m. As Forest Gump said, that's all I have to say about that.
     
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  12. tyrantlizardrex Sep 21, 2019

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    Again, to stop any more of this nonsense. 50m, means 50m.

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  13. saulgoodman Sep 21, 2019

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    I'm not sure what you missed about the fact that I agree with that.
     
  14. JwRosenthal Sep 21, 2019

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    Not a Snorkel- made you drink. ::bleh::
     
  15. Mouse_at_Large still immune to Speedmaster attraction Sep 21, 2019

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    If Omega simply altered their graphic to free diving (beyond the watch's depth rating) rather than snorkelling this whole thread would never have happened.....

    :whistling:
     
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  16. BlackTulip Sep 21, 2019

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    "It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is."

    - Bill Clinton
     
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  17. BlackTulip Sep 21, 2019

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    Does it matter?
     
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  18. rob#1 Sep 21, 2019

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    Wow, a revolving thread, going around and around in circles so much I’m getting dizzy.

    I was interested to note that Omega only recommends their metal bracelets and rubber straps for underwater use... what about their NATOs, don’t they hold the watch securely enough? Or aren’t they rated to 50m? :whistling:
     
  19. tyrantlizardrex Sep 22, 2019

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    Yes - the spread of false “information” does not help anyone.
     
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  20. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Sep 22, 2019

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    Wikipedia ISO standards says I can snorkel

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Resistant_mark

    Water resistance classification

    Watches are often classified by watch manufacturers by their degree of water resistance which, due to the absence of official classification standards, roughly translates to the following (1 metre ≈ 3.29 feet). These vagueries have since been superseded by ISO 22810:2010, in which "any watch on the market sold as water-resistant must satisfy ISO 22810 – regardless of the brand."[1]

    Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
    Water Resistant 3 atm or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. Not suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkeling, water related work, fishing, and diving.

    Water Resistant 5 atm or 50 m Suitable for everyday use, showering, bathing, shallow-water swimming, snorkeling, water related work, fishing. Splash/rain resistant. Not suitable for diving.


    Water Resistant 10 atm or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. Not suitable for diving.

    Water Resistant 20 atm or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.

    Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths not suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.

    Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths notsuitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.

    Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER'S WATCH xxx M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out.