Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice Is this

Hi all,

I’m trying to educate myself on vintage watches, and in doing so this forum has been of great help.
Thanks a lot to the members for gathering such precious knowledge !

I’m writing this post because I came along an ad depicting an « original » dial (though I guess some dishonest sellers might argue that refinished is still original) yet it seems odd to me (and if it seems odd…). Especially the length of the minute markers varying ring some kind of red alert in my mind.

Add is here https://www.sometimespassion.com/en/page-d-articles/o-7

And below are a couple of pictures, if some you could enlighten me with your advice (just a precision : I’m not willing to buy that watch, just trying to find out if the dial has been refinished…)

Thanks
Olivier

Thanks !
Must be me then (to my eye for instance 27, 28 seem longer than 29 minute markers, and 32 and 33 seem longer than 31). Since some markers angles seem a bit off to me as well, could be the angle of the picture combined with the fact that they are right on the pie-pan edge that creates an effect leading me to this incorrect conclusion…
Feeling the same as you on the price, one of the reasons I’m not interested in buying it 😉

Thank you, instructive indeed ! I guess I might be becoming a bit too much skeptical and seeing redials everywhere now 😅😉

white dials - > always darken the pictures!
FIFY

@Fallout Boy : thanks for the tip !

Yeah I do see what you mean, the minutes markers appear to not be perfectly aligned; I don't think they're necessarily not the same size/length, I think they're just aligned some further inwards (to my eye)



I'm not familiar with these vintage omega watches, at all, but what I generally do is go to google images and type in the watch + new old stock, so here I've just searched for "168.004 omega new old stock", this has yielded a few results, like here:https://parkersjewellers.co.uk/prod...glFtiu8FHB_bReOpZwL4er8ieovzi95G0cwUIx_VfPpEq
Also here:
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/omega/constellation-pie-pan-de-luxe-new-old-stock--id45293351.htm

Looks consistent that these are also having this same unaligned markers. So that's a positive! outside of doing something like this I think it can be hard to fully say for sure. I'd say it looks like not-a-redial, realistically though in my opinion it can be difficult to 100% say for sure with anything in the vintage space. There's a point though where, reprinting these things to such an accuracy basically means you need industrial tools, not eye-and-hand, so it's probably not a redial (the lines we're looking at are fractions of a milimeter) so I think you're fine! It does feel expensive for a gold plated watch as others have said, typically gold plated is less desirable than steel.

Overall though this is what I personally do to try and authenticate, and build a basis of evidence. Some vintage watches (particularly 50s or 40s and older) I think genuinely had quite a variance coming out of the factory (i.e. there are a huge amount of variants of the font style of the IWC vintage watches) and also some factory pieces at this time genuinely were not perfect either with tolerances, so I'd say don't get too picky with looking pixel-by-pixel on zoomed in photos. Even modern Rolexes have been noted to have significant dial printing issues once you zoom in. Good luck!