Vintage Omega Speedmaster Pro: Collector Discussion

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Hi,
just came across these watches in Spain while on vacation. guy asks 14k eur for them declaring their all original but i would appreciate any advice from the experts here. thanks!

 
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compare it to this one, which looks a lot nicer and is cheaper;

 
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What research did you do yourself?
 
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I don't understand - are there multiple watches? If so, send photos of the others - backs also. But if this is for this one watch, no, $14k seems aggressive.
 
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The hour and minute hand look like replacements.
 
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Hi,
just came across these watches in Spain while on vacation. guy asks 14k eur for them declaring their all original but i would appreciate any advice from the experts here. thanks!

It is joke, isn't it?
 
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Isn't 14K EUR optimistic for any standard lyre lug Speedy these days? With exception to Ultraman, LE etc.
 
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My opinion: IF the dial were very attractive and everything else was very nice and original, 14k would be about the upper limit for a 145.012 or 105.012. For me, this dial is not in the upper half of dials from that era. This watch, from what I see, is worth closer to 7k usd. So much relies on the dial appearance...not just cond. There are beautiful dials from this era, incl the 68 transitionals. So there is no "standard lyre lug" in my view. A beautiful dial can add or subtract thousands ....for me.
 
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Sellers are struggling to price 60鈥檚 Speedmasters imo (or are just being optimistic!).
Over the last couple of years people seem to assume the heights of 2017-covid have not only maintained, but increased, when in truth, average-good examples have reduced in value.

There鈥檚 a couple of Speedmasters in the private sales here recently where I鈥檝e read the description and photos then raised my eyes at the asking price.