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Vintage Omega Seamaster Crosshair dial identification

  1. kalingwu Mar 8, 2015

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    I came across this vintage Omega Seamaster with Crosshair at a store in Switzerland. I am not sure whether this is authentic or not, and if it is, any clue on the identification, dating, model number etc? The store owner said it is a front loader watch (date back ~60s), and he doesn't have the tool to open the case and show me the serial number and movement unless he sends it to his watch servicer. I am curious that whether the dial is authentic, as the logo replaces the 12 o'clock marker and there are no markers at 3, 6, and 9 o'clock.

    Any advice will help as I am considering to buy this watch. According to the owner, the crystal and crown are also original, and the buckle might not be the actual one that comes with the model. The owner is asking ~500 USD. Is it worth it? I understand that it is risky to buy a watch without seeing the inside. But I don't have enough time to let him send to his watch servicer. Thank you for your advice!

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  2. Hijak Mar 8, 2015

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    Something seems off about this dial...the distance between the word Omega and the Omega symbol maybe. Never seen the Omega symbol used as the twelve before, that doesn't mean a whole lot though. Also the three, six and nine hour markers are missing, this looks odd and very unOmega.
     
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  3. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Mar 8, 2015

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    poor redial.
     
  4. kalingwu Mar 8, 2015

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    Hi Hijak,

    Thank you for your advice.

    I have been going through the vintage omega catalogue, and I found a model that is closest to this one (see the link below). It doesn't have the 3, 6 and 9 markers. But the omega symbol is at a different place. Also the hands are also different. I guess it's good to know and very interesting that Omega did produce watches that do not have the 3, 6 and 9 hour markers.

    http://www.omegawatches.com/planet-omega/heritage/vintage-watches-database?ref=15764

    I really like how pristine and clean the dial is. But what you pointed out makes me worry that it is redial or not authentic. And that I should not put money on this.
     
  5. kalingwu Mar 8, 2015

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    Hi MSNWatch,

    Why do you say it is a poor redial? I am a beginner and I want to learn how you drew the conclusion.

    Thanks for stopping by my post!
     
  6. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 8, 2015

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    It bears no resemblence to any production Omega dial, the Omega logo sitting way up there away from the word Omega is a massive mistake, but in general everything about it just looks wrong. Its very common to come across redialed 50s/60s Omegas.
     
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  7. TNTwatch Mar 8, 2015

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    Unusual logo placement aside, the printing quality is very low on the cross-hair line, smearing from the e to r, and Swiss Made not correctly placed.
     
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  8. kalingwu Mar 8, 2015

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    Got it. Thank you for your insight!
     
  9. kalingwu Mar 8, 2015

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    I see. Good things to realize!
     
  10. WhatYourWatchSay Jun 12, 2017

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    Edited Jun 12, 2017
  11. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jun 12, 2017

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    18K one in your link is not only a horrible redial its been polished to death.

    Can't make any real judgement on the black one from the provided photo, although the hands are incorrect and the lugs are over-polished.
     
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  12. No Mercy Jun 12, 2017

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    I have the same dial which cant be a redialed, you can click on photo to enlarge:

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  13. WhatYourWatchSay Jun 12, 2017

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    I think No Mercy's dial shows that this is indeed a genuine Omega dial style. I guess they really did offer a wide range of choices.
     
  14. TNTwatch Jun 12, 2017

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    The first picture is too small but dial is likely to be OK. The black one is more than likely to be redial based on the non-flat A in AUTOMATIC.

    Another bad sign of the OP dial is the markers appear to have the notch at the end for lume application, but there's no sign of lume left. On looking back, this dial may not have been completely refinished, but there are signs indicating it's been messed with.
     
  15. WhatYourWatchSay Jun 16, 2017

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    I ended up buying--and selling--the watch I talked about above but I took some pics to post here. I believe these dials are genuine and quite nice in person.
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  16. Kryss Dec 8, 2018

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    7F6C8517-D3E3-4F1B-8DA5-0E3FE04F2BC9.jpeg I just found this one on EBay and ask myself the same question if it’s authentic or re-designed :)
     
  17. thewatchdoge Sep 23, 2019

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    I have one too with a date and it hangs together well, IMHO.

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