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  1. ginok Oct 28, 2016

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    Hello all and thank you for allowing me to participate as a first timer in this forum. I'll cut to the chase.

    Looking for as much info on this gold Omega Constellation day date I just purchased. I'd like ideas on year, reference, price, service and how to maintain, info on mesh bracelet, etc.

    In terms of service I'd like to know if there's a specific AD to service at, what to ask for, etc.

    Is the mesh bracelet adjustable? If so how?

    Any info would be truly appreciated!
     
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  2. ConElPueblo Oct 28, 2016

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    Hi there.

    Just a quick reply about the bracelet - it's not adjustable and not an Omega item either. Earlier on, it wasn't uncommon for jewellers to supply their own bracelets which were sized to order.

    Otherwise it looks great :thumbsup:
     
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  3. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Oct 28, 2016

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    As for lots of info on Connies
    Desmonds Constellation Collectors blog is your friend
    Dive in and tell us what you find out about your golden C-case
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    Welcome to the forum!
    Second edit
    Tell us where you are and you should get suggestions for watchmakers specialising in vintage watches to get your watch serviced
     
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  4. ginok Oct 29, 2016

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    Thanks for the info thus far. Already on Desmond's and looking to educate myself. I'm from Montreal, Canada and any references would be much appreciated!
     
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  5. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Oct 29, 2016

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    Firstly, don't think AD
    Find a good watchmaker versed in vintage watches - preferably Omega
    There's at least one notable watchmaker who's in your country and who is a frequent poster here
    @Archer
    Not sure which town he's in though (it's a big place!)
    A lot of us post our watches (sometimes very long distances) to trusted watchmakers
    Hope that helps
     
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  6. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 29, 2016

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    Edited title to make it more relevant and remove all caps, please don't use all caps
     
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  7. ginok Oct 29, 2016

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    Thank you for the info, I'll be on the hunt for a trusted vintage watchmaker. I'd like to know more about reference, year, movement...
     
  8. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Oct 29, 2016

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    Could you not find it on Desmonds site ?
    Probably early 70's (font style)
    see section on dials
    Day date so possibly 700 series or 1000 series
    (Sorry bit late -age of watch - for me so not sure)
    See section on movements
    Good luck researching and report back your findings
     
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  9. Woodward Oct 29, 2016

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    I agree - the "Officially Certified" text placed in the lower half of the dial points to a later model C-shape.
    I´m pretty certain it´s a cal. 1021 as opposed to a cal. 751 - the wide piece of metal between the day and date fields is usually seen on watches with these later calibers.

    Could be a ref. 168.0057 (1972 and later), but you need to look inside the watch to be sure. Do not attempt this yourself! A caseback in solid gold is a soft lump of metal, and it will easily be damaged if you don´t use the correct tool and procedure.

    The ref. number will be on the inside of the caseback. While the watch is open, make a note of the serial number on the movement. There are several sites on the internet where you will be able to translate this number into a year of manufacture.

    Good luck - it´s a beautiful watch.
     
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  10. ginok Oct 30, 2016

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    Would anyone recommend having the glass changed/have scratches buffed out and the gold case polished? Or is it best to leave in its original form? Time keeps very well with extremely minimal delay when unworn for awhile, not sure a service is necessary but would be interested to here opinions.
     
  11. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Oct 30, 2016

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    crystal changed or buffed - is fine
    don't have the case polished
    do have the watch serviced
     
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  12. 105012 Oct 30, 2016

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    This is a Constellation 168.0057 with a calibre 1021. This was the last C-type Constellation introduced (though not the last in production).

    The calibre 1000 family replaced the legendary 551 to 751 calibres and switched to a faster beat rate of 28,800 bph (8 bps). The focus with this calibre family was to try to fight off the quartz wave, so cost of production and mass manufacture took priority. For more, I recommend Desmond's site.
     
  13. ConElPueblo Oct 30, 2016

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    If you are going to wear it, have the watch serviced and the glass changed. It's mineral glass and nearly impossible to remove scratches from.
     
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  14. ginok Oct 30, 2016

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    So, here are some updates on this Connie and below, a quote from an Instagram Omega enthusiast friend of mine who own many vintage pieces and works under a senior watchmaker.

    My findings:
    Caliber 1021 movement
    1970-1972
    C case designed by Gerald Genta in 1964
    18k solid gold
    Ref. 1680057
    Champagne gold dial with gold markers
    Gold fluted bezel and gold case
    Aftermarket 18k bracelet
    Original ones are brick-style bracelet fully in gold which are hard enough to find.

    And from my Omega collected buddy:

    Truly an exceptional beautiful beast you got there! It's a full gold version which you guesses right, it got cal 1021. It came around 1972, early 70s if I recall, designed for Omega by Gerald Genta. Finding one is rare enough. And seems that yours "suffered" an over polished case which the satin finish is almost gone I think.... You could give it to a watchmaker nearby you to make it how it should be. Supposed to be he flagship of Omega at the time given by its first high frequency calibre that runs at rate 28800 bph or 4Hz, which in its time was regarded as the fast beat calibre. And its movement is pretty thin too, around 3-4 mm in height, including the oscillating weight which is pretty cool to have. But I still don't know why most collectors does not consider these hidden jewels from Omega. The problem is the thin movement. It's thin enough, that some times the reverser wheel would break easily. And yeah, finishing wise... It's not as stunning as the three digits calibres. And sadly for manufacturing sake, the finishing are left behind for its effectiveness during manufacturing process. Don't worry it's still got a very nice finishing but not as elaborate as the three digit calibres, which is why most collectors have less regard. Pretty sad because this one deserves more attention, as without this, Omega would've never been as it is today.... It is supposed to be a historical piece. It opened up the opportunity of Omega to do some futuristic approach in watchmaking, with it's first and the last in-house high frequency Omega calibres. I would say congratulation to you and your piece. What you got there is an historically important piece for omega, a hidden jewel that went under the radar for the most of the connoisseurs.
     
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  15. ginok Dec 7, 2016

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    And a photo follow up of the guts after a servicing
     
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  16. ulackfocus Dec 7, 2016

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    Nice watch.

    Are you related to our member hrobi? He's infamous for bare feet in his watch photos too.
     
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  17. StrutlessWonder Dec 7, 2016

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    Very nice Connie - congrats!!!
    Where did you end up getting this serviced?
    When does the next one arrive? :D

    I have a soft spot for these, as I have an 18k gold 168.029 calibre 751 1969 transitional dial model I inherited from my father-in-law (the Constellation "n" lettering is of the new style). Pardon the iPhone 7 photos and thread hijack -- I guess I am no longer a lurker...
     
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  18. Woodward Dec 8, 2016

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    Wow - that 168.029 is nice, I love the bezel.

    And judging by the 'OM' marks, it even has a dial of solid gold. Beautiful piece :)
     
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  19. ginok Jan 12, 2017

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    Im looking to sell mine at this point as I have some other watches on my wish list but I'm pretty novice at finding out how to price it. Would anyone that's been involved in this thread have any advice for me? I would sell it with the 18k solid gold bracelet too, unless it wasn't desirable.
    Let me know!
     
  20. ulackfocus Jan 12, 2017

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