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Vintage IWC (International Watch Company) Information

  1. Jonatan

    Jonatan Jun 21, 2016

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    Good morning everyone,

    I have developed an interest for vintage IWC watches, but I am having trouble finding information on the web. Or on here for that matter, IWC is too short I guess?

    I have found some information but not enough that will let me be confident in deciphering between an authentic watch and a Franken/redial. In other words not enough pictures. Most talk about the movement, but few have dial and hand pictures.

    I know that several of you have some very nice examples, and I would love that you share your pictures on here and any information you may have regarding IWC.

    Feel free to add to the list of references and Please add your watch photos.

    This thread is a work in progress!


    Here's what I have found so far in case some of you could be interested:
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/iwc-cal-89.713/
    http://www.woundforlife.com/2014/12/03/hall-of-fame-iwc-caliber-89/
    https://horologium.com.au/2012/10/10/iwcs-classic-movement-the-calibre-89/
    http://www.iwc.com/forum/en/discussion/19271/
    http://www.frizzellweb.com/larry/ingenieur/
     
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  2. obstando

    obstando Jun 21, 2016

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    A few years ago this was the 2nd oldest known IWC wristwatch dating to 1907 but others may have come to light since (movement No. 399647)
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  3. LouS

    LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Jun 21, 2016

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    There is a vintage IWC forum somewhere, IIRC sponsored by the company
     
  4. Vitezi

    Vitezi Jun 21, 2016

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  5. Jonatan

    Jonatan Jun 23, 2016

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    Yes, I know of the forum, and I am a member. Unfortunately, it doesn't satisfy my need.

    I am looking for technical and detailed information, like at which period the crown started to be signed, the corrects hands used for each watch, the exact period script for the logo, etc. From what I have seen on the IWC forum, it's mostly people asking questions about their watches.

    I know the knowledge is out there, and I'm just trying to pry it out of you. ;)

    As always a picture is worth a thousand words!
     
  6. Vitezi

    Vitezi Jun 23, 2016

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    Calling @Tony C. , one of the forum's vintage IWC experts who may be able to assist you.
     
  7. Jonatan

    Jonatan Jun 23, 2016

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    Thanks. I didn't want to turn this into a "Does this watch look legit" thread. I want to learn so that next time I see a beautiful IWC (happened to me in Berlin a few weeks back) I have the knowledge that will allow me to pick it up.
     
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  8. dougiedude

    dougiedude Carpe horologium! Sep 25, 2017

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    Reviving/adding to an old thread, since @Jonatan did well to reference quite a bit in his first post. Since buying my one and only IWC, I tried to find some more information, but could find nothing to add.

    Could be that @gatorcpa has some information not included in the above references.

    Meanwhile, here's my 'just arrived' ca.1964 cal. 401 with original, apparently unworn ('til now :D), strap and buckle:

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    I'm definitely going to remove the strap and buckle for safe-keeping/preservation and wear this beauty on something else...
     
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  9. STANDY

    STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Sep 25, 2017

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    Dennis knew a hell of a lot about IWCs :(
     
  10. dougiedude

    dougiedude Carpe horologium! Sep 25, 2017

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    Yes, he did.

    I remember he had two of them in gold; a cal. 89, and a cal.401. I think he told me as he was selling off most of his Longines that the IWC (not sure which one) was one of the few watches that he would keep.

    Here was his post/pics of his IWC's:

    https://omegaforums.net/threads/iwc-cal-89.713/#post-7262
     
  11. Nobel Prize

    Nobel Prize Sergio Sep 25, 2017

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    Vintage iwc is a very complicated sector. I had two.....and both ended up being redials. One blatant, one very subtle. I can confidently buy 80's and up.... But am very very carefully bellow that.

    As much as other brands are busy the "poor man's Patek" was so popular and over produced that finding a good example is near impossible. Ironically because of the brand and movement quality I was able to flip my radials and make a profit.....and that was being honest about the dials and cases.

    I have two semi modern pieces, a portofino and a Portuguese and one, truly valuable schaffausen TZM pilot from the 80's that even the iwc boutique is offering money for.

    I don't dare for truly vintage anymore.
     
  12. dougiedude

    dougiedude Carpe horologium! Sep 25, 2017

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    I do understand that the IWC is frequently re-dialed.

    Can you post a picture of the re-dial of the subtle one?

    I would say it must have been an amazingly good re-dial for you to make a profit on re-selling it after the dial facts were revealed... do show!
     
  13. STANDY

    STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Sep 25, 2017

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    Someone say IWC ( for future reference of course :whistling: )
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  14. dougiedude

    dougiedude Carpe horologium! Sep 25, 2017

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  15. Nobel Prize

    Nobel Prize Sergio Sep 25, 2017

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    Sold and gone.....I didn't keep a picture. One was a golden dial, the more subtle one, and the other was a black dial. The value of these movements is quite firm.
     
  16. Jonatan

    Jonatan Sep 27, 2017

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    Home sick today and saw that I never posted mine on this thread. A lucky find almost a year ago and I promised myself I wouldn't wear it until I had defended my thesis. Well, a move for a new job, 50 hour work weeks and the thesis isn't coming along very fast. Hopefully, I can sport this beauty in Q1 of 2018. You're all invited to the inaugural party and the public defence.
     
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  17. Jonatan

    Jonatan Sep 27, 2017

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    I've also had a couple more that I sold because they were too big on me. I will admit that they have always been educated guesses because I wouldn't be able to spot a redial. I really like IWC and I am always tempted to start a side collection but I always go back to time-only Universal Geneves.
     
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  18. 2ar2c1

    2ar2c1 Sep 28, 2017

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    an older 3536 GST, in Ti on the velcro, used to have all 3 then sold the steel and gold. And the MK 15, still very comfortable watch.
     
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  19. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Sep 28, 2017

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  20. nkb

    nkb Jan 2, 2020

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    Hi Nobel
    I am considering this IWC cal 89 in 18K from approximately 1949 and came across this old thread which I am glad about! This is because it has sent alarm bells as to whether it is a redial or not.
    It is the "Schaffhausen" font that concerns me the most (it is not cursive??) I will also ask the IWC forum about it but thought it would be good to hear from you!
    What is your opinion on condition (dial, case and movement) .From my untrained eye it is ok for all three.

    Thanks Neal

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