Dear Forum,

first of all let me start of ny saying what a great place this is. It's the first forum i really feel comfortable in - ironically i'm totally new to the topic of vintage watches, which makes it even more enjoyable. Should you have questions about vintage cars, guitars or coffee machines...i'm your man!

Back to the topic: I was lucky enough to get hold of two wonderful dials for the cal 321.

I would love your opinion on these and whether my guess is right, that the first one (with PRO markings) is suitable for an 145.012 and the second one (which i guess is a bit older) for the 105.003?! They don't seem to be service dials, have the original Tritium on them...

But wait, i was asking for YOUR opinion, not MINE...

Third pic is the back of the second one...

Thanks guys, cheers,
Felix

 

I think, you're right, lucky guy ;-)
First dial is also correct for late 105.012-65 and all -66
Second dial is also correct for a late 2998 as far as I know!

 

Not sure if 2998's ever had "t"s

 

Second for 105003

 

Second dial is for a 105.003, only.

 

I think the topic of coffee machines is the only one I did not see covered in OF so far (but I probably only missed this), the others have been discussed to some extent.

 

Thank tou very much everyone!

'Lucky' Felix....

 

At least at Williams site the 2998-62 has "T's", I have to check MWO later this day @home
http://speedmaster101.com/2998-3/

 

You're totally right: All 2998-MWO examples are without T's and William has written below the watch why the shown dial has T's. I have to read more carefully ;-)

 

I'll get the ball rolling.

Here's a 1988 Pavoni Professional I just bought from Francesco Ceccarelli in Italy. De-scaled, rechromed, rewired, base repainted, brass piston, new pressurestat---doesn't get much better than this. He also converted it from 220V to 110. I've rebuilt a couple of vintage Pavoni's, but they lacked pressurestats and I found them tricky to use. This should be a dream.

 

Wow. That is one sophisticated bezel press!

 

I really like a Mocchamaster for drip coffee

 

First time I've laughed out loud in a while.

 

Beautiful! But they stopped using that shade of orange in 1987, so technically...

 

Nice! I worked out the other day that had I have pulled close to 40,000 shots with my Pavoni Professional (yes they have a Professional and a Pre professional model as well!) and except for replacing the seals every couple of years and the pivot pins, oh and the group, it has never let me down. Love it.

 

If you're really serious about coffee, then you roast your own beans (https://www.sweetmarias.com/), and you brew using a vacuum brewer (Yamaha, Bodum, Kitchen Aid - electric). As far as the dials go, the first one is a bit tired, the second is gorgeous.

 

Sorry for the late reply!

Indeed I thought about roasting my own. But. I have covered so many nerdy topics in my life, I'm not sure if I need one more. And I would have to renovate a small house on my premises just for that- the table roasters don't do well enough. Has to be a vintage probat, for sure! point is, I don't want to start this until I believe I can do better than my roaster guy can. And he's pretty darn good in what he's doing. So what would be the point to start roasting small quantities with a small roaster in a medium quality...and it's really tough to get nice coffee beans to start with!! Anyway, one day, maybe....

 

Check out sweetmarias.com. Plenty of good green beans. As far as a roaster, this one is amazing. http://hottopusa.com/

 

Lets swing this back on topic. The T SWISS MADE T dial pictured on www.sp101.net was illustrating what a built up watch could look like. In these heady days of Speedmaster prices, the parts are now worth dismantling but I like it:

The Caption reads:
2998-62. This is actually a watch I built up by me from salvaged parts. It is useful to see this sort of thing as it shows how easy it is to build up these watches and pass them off as original. It has some incorrect parts. The Omega supplied chrono hand – which is too fat in the tail, should be a spear in this reference. The subdial hands should be stick, not leaf. The dial has narrow T SWISS MADE T markings that should be on a 105.003. I used a Seamster 321 movement. It is very interesting illustration of what can be done, and what we should be looking out for as more and more unscrupulous people coble together watches out of parts. This is a great looking watch, but not original. It is because of this watch, that I am now deeply suspicious of any wrong part on a watch. Now, when I see something as innocent as an incorrect chrono hand, I start to examine everything.