Respectable Members

A close friend of mine was reviewing this blog (http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com/) as he does regularly and came across an essay regarding rarities specifically the caliber 560.
The watch he has interest in is a Calibre 560 and reading the blog further it struck him that this piece maybe one of the most uncommon of all the 560 collectables.
What are everyone's thoughts here?
My friend has asked me to bid on eBay, on his behalf, which I am considering (and with a lot of bidding interest so far) how high dollar-wise, do I need to go if I want to really get this watch for his expanding collection?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141069597470?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Thank-you.

 

Is that a redial?

 

Why would you think it might be? (said JRS, very cautiously . . .)

 

The gap between SWISS and MADE.

 

It's a nice piece but I wouldn't buy it for the 560. In reality it's just a non collection gold filled omega in nice condition. Price accordingly. The 560 may be worth $50 more if that. This piece shouldn't be more than $5-$600.

 

I would say it's a redial, until somebody proves I am wrong.

 

I vote original finish on the dial, lume on the figures and hands match, most refinished dials don't even bother with the lume on the figures and even less would match the hands.

I don't buy into the 3000 figure for the 560, I've had and seen way too many for that figure to hold up.

Perhaps a $400.00 watch, just not that special.

 

What a surprise!

 

Dear Forum Followers:
Regarding the comments by some not so fully informed pundits regarding whether the cal 560 is 'not so rare' -- I truly beg to substantially defer -- please note the following taken from the esteemed Mr. Desmond G's "Omega Seamaster & Other Cal 560 Rarities" -- http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com/2009/07/unearthed-more-omega-calibre-560.html

Click on the updated 'essay' and take a moment to read all -- it won't hurt!!

"Omega's database is a little patchy on numbers for the entire calibre, however further enquiries with the Omega museum confirm that only 3000 pieces were spread over the entire range of US collection models.

"However, it is thought that out of the full production run of 3000 pieces, most of the movements were reserved for the more striking Seamaster DeVille models, and so, arguably, this (KL 6312) watch is the rarest of the four models".

Finally, .................."however simple mathematics will tell you that some of the calibre 560 models (ie., the KL 6312 for specific instance) would have been produced in numbers less than 300, and that, for my money, renders them rare".

So maybe only 100 or less of the KL 6312's were produced and exist --.

 

Rarity does not necessarily equate to desirability and hence to value.

It's still a low karat gold-filled steel backed 17-jewel watch, nothing special regardless of its supposed rarity.

 

It's pretty safe to say that the members that commented in this thread have read and in my case re and reread Desmond's wonderful article on the 560s. They may have in fact been produced in a batch of 3000 however since one can at any given time find at least 2+ for sale it's really hard to call them rare or even scarce. And to add that the watches that they were cased into were, with a few exceptions, pedestrian timepieces. Mostly ss or gold filled pieces non collection. The caliber 560 itself is also a lower end movement, 17j, non chronometer, non quick set date. All this adds up to pieces that may be rare but certainly not trading at much of a premium and not actively being scooped up by collectors, well maybe some collectors.

 

The 560's that are ADJUSTED 2 (TWO) POSITIONS less common. It's also harder to find Swiss Made SMDV's with the 560 than the US Made models.

 

Ive seen as many ss#166.020 SMDVs as any off the other supposed 560 references. IIRC Dennis had one and sold it on this forum and if Dennis sells it its a good bet its not that rare.