vintage 1930? identification

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Hi Omega Experts,

I am new to the forum. I have been searching online for some time now and am not able to identify this watch. It belonged to my wife's grandfather and seems to be from around the 1930's. It is a beautiful piece of history and I would like to know more about it. It has some resemblances to the CK859, and also some pocket watches seem to have some features from this watch but I haven't been able to find this particular model.

I haven't opened the watch yet, as I don't have the proper tools, but before I go to a watch expert in our town, I thought I try you guys. What better source than the world renowned Omega experts on this forum.

I am sorry for the quality of the photo's, I tried to capture the blue color of the hands as well, but that is only properly visible under direct light. If you would need better quality let me know.

So my questions are: Does somebody know the model, year and/or potential worth?

And on a side note, can someone explain to me why the 3 and 9 are placed this way? I see it in other models as well, but haven't been able to find an explanation.

I highly appreciate any pointers or help from this community.

Best regards,
Morris

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Hi Morris, welcome.

Caliber 26.5 SOB

Mine is ca 1936/37

Calling @Tire-comedon they should know the reference.
 
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Hi Morris, welcome.

Caliber 26.5 SOB

Mine is ca 1936/37

Calling @Tire-comedon they should know the reference.

Hi XJR, thank you for the quick response. Looking forward to the response of @Tire-comedon. Could it be difficult to match because of repairs with parts from different models?
 
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I do not know about Omega so I cannot comment on value or reference numbers. However, the dial design is typical of the mid-1930s. The design, sometimes referred to as a "sector" dial, is quite sought-after by collectors. There was even a patent registered for the design by the dial maker named Stern Freres, in 1935. See here: http://watchexpertise.com/oldlonginespassion/Longines_Passion/Quadranti_a_settori.html

The steel case is also very nice. Make sure that the dial is not cleaned or altered as this will negatively impact the value of the watch. Also, make sure that the case is not polished or refinished, for the same reason.
 
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Hi XJR, thank you for the quick response. Looking forward to the response of @Tire-comedon. Could it be difficult to match because of repairs with parts from different models?

Helo, ref CK 792 named 'Filenios' for the Italian market. On yours, the crown, hours and seconds hands are not original. I have a doubt for the minutes hands originality also, but can't be affirmative.

Here in a 1937 Italian catalog :
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Here in a period advertising (credit AJTT) with the exact same dial as Bubba48's one:
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Two of mine say hello (you can see here the correct crown and the hands combos). Sorry, this is an old picture with low quality, I should take better pictures! :
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Hi Tire-comedon,

Thank you for your extensive reaction. I have been browsing on this forum with the ref and other pointers that have been shared. Very interesting and I am slowly getting a grasp of the seemingly infinite possibilities, variations and also the impact that repairs have in changing the look of the watch.

I came across the Euroos


Could it be this model @Tire-comedon? Maybe this was on the same advert as the Filenios?

And is somebody able to give any ballpark amount on the value of this watch in this condition? Would it be worth getting the original parts replaced or does that further devaluate the watch? It is not that important as I will not be selling it, but I am curious and looking to get the most out of this watch and bring it in the best condition. I already found some adresses of Omega watchmakers through this forum, but I am also looking to learn from your experiences.

Best regards,
Morris
 
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Hi Tire-comedon,

Thank you for your extensive reaction. I have been browsing on this forum with the ref and other pointers that have been shared. Very interesting and I am slowly getting a grasp of the seemingly infinite possibilities, variations and also the impact that repairs have in changing the look of the watch.

I came across the Euroos


Could it be this model @Tire-comedon? Maybe this was on the same advert as the Filenios?

And is somebody able to give any ballpark amount on the value of this watch in this condition? Would it be worth getting the original parts replaced or does that further devaluate the watch? It is not that important as I will not be selling it, but I am curious and looking to get the most out of this watch and bring it in the best condition. I already found some adresses of Omega watchmakers through this forum, but I am also looking to learn from your experiences.

Best regards,
Morris


I retract my comment😀 As I compare the casing it seems to have become over time some sort of a mix between a Filenios and a Euroos. Anyways a beautiful watch. 😀
 
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I retract my comment😀 As I compare the casing it seems to have become over time some sort of a mix between a Filenios and a Euroos. Anyways a beautiful watch. 😀
It's a Filenios.
To know the model ref, you have to pay attention to the case design, as there were often dial and hands variations on the same model without changing the Omega ref. As I wrote, the hours hand and seconds hand and crown are for sure non correct. I think the minutes hand may also be a replacement. The dial is period correct and may be original.