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  1. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Apr 18, 2016

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    Well, yes, if by "very pleasing", you mean "such an obvious and poor redial that, if offered, it would immediately be rejected by Stevie Wonder, then I agree. And this is a well-known dealer, for f*cks sake.

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  2. spaniard Apr 18, 2016

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    I dont know much about these but the difference here is the font on the lettering that gives it away as a redial?
     
  3. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Apr 18, 2016

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    Yes. Simply do an image search for vintage omega Seamaster, and review countless examples of (mostly) correct dials. The difference will be jarringly obvious.
     
  4. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Apr 18, 2016

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    That's probably the most obvious sign.
     
  5. Taddyangle Convicted Invicta Wearer Apr 18, 2016

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    I got sucked in on the "very pleasing original dial"

    Then saw the image and the price of $1695.

    Then said this member is an idiot. Then I read the text. :)
     
  6. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Apr 18, 2016

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    The quotation marks should have been a hint. ;)
     
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  7. Garv no longer a member of the terminally hip Apr 18, 2016

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    You get points for subtle ;)
     
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  8. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Apr 18, 2016

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    There, fixed it for you.
    ;)
     
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  9. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Apr 18, 2016

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    How the dial should look like but in an 14k yg case.

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  10. M'Bob Apr 19, 2016

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    The thing that is not obvious here is the intent. Trying to deceive, or an over-sight? I have known the owner for years, and he is a straight-shooter. So I'm certain it is an honest mistake. I will bring it to his attention.
     
  11. dx009 Apr 19, 2016

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    One other interesting sign might be the fact that the markers are so clean, yet you can see that the dial has some patina, and 2-3 spots/marks as well. Clearly the markers should not have been THAT clean. Not that there's anything wrong with them, but they can give you another clue that someone worked on this watch, after it left the factory.
     
  12. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Apr 19, 2016

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    With all due respect, how could it be possible for anyone with experience to mistakenly judge that dial as original?

    "Oops! I should have taken a closer look!"? I don't think so.

    If you mean that he may have somehow neglected to mention that the "original" dial was refinished, I still wouldn't buy it, as even as a refinished dial, it is hardly "pleasing".
     
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  13. M'Bob Apr 19, 2016

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    With all due respect to you, you are making assumptions. It is very possible a less experienced underling posted this. I don't know the full story, and neither do you. Sit tight, and when I get a firm answer, I will post it.
     
  14. M'Bob Apr 19, 2016

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    I just spoke to the owner, Ken Jacobs. He confesses an honest mistake, and will correct it. As I said earlier, he stands by his stock and reputation, and had it slipped through on a sale, he would have happily made it right.
     
  15. kingsrider Thank you Sir! May I have another? Apr 19, 2016

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    Now $1295 with the description rewritten: "Very pleasing possibly older refinished silvered textured dial with raised triangular and arabic indexes."
     
  16. dx009 Apr 19, 2016

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    Bah, children might starve now, thanks to Tony. :D
     
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  17. DrKen8465 Apr 19, 2016

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    Hi Guys,
    Sorry for the error in description of our posting. Honest mistake, not by an employee, but by myself.
    Thanks to long time customer and friend Bob G for making me aware of the discussion here
    and for his voice of reason in his comments prior to getting a hold of me. Hey guys, some of you are
    awfully vitriolic in some of these comments. Really? Obviously no intent to deceive or mislead,
    just in too much of a hurry to get an item posted. Apologies to all. Will try to be more careful. Description
    and pricing have now been revised. No harm, no foul, I hope!
    Ken Jacobs, owner Wanna Buy A Watch?
     
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  18. ConElPueblo Apr 19, 2016

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    Honestly, the comments on this forum probably shouldn't concern you, as I doubt anyone here would be customers anyway... $1300 for this piece will not be paid by even a reasonably new collector. You need full-on n00b for that :D
     
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  19. dx009 Apr 19, 2016

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    I think we've seen people pay way more for overpriced watches. :oops:
     
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  20. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Apr 19, 2016

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    I have nothing at all against Mr. Jacobs, nor do I believe that he rubbed his hands in anticipation of fleecing some unsuspecting customer.

    Having said that, I am completely mystified by his explanation. In a hurry to post the listing? Can anyone explain to me how someone whose business it is to assess, buy, and sell vintage watches could have glanced at that dial for three seconds, let alone 30, and thought to himself, "Ah, not only original, but very pleasing."?
     
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