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Universal Geneve Redial Boot Camp

  1. Timmovitz Apr 12, 2016

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    For me to learn more about authentic vs. redials & price is fair can you help evaluate these. Thanks :)
    1. ref. 12286. $2800. I've never seen this dial before. Is it Franken? The day seems redial as 10-22 doesn't turn opposite the 24-8. The logo seems sloppy.
    2. with gold bracelet $5625. Franken? The day & month are in different languages - was that normal? How come the movements seem so pristine?
    3. $2750. This is only one I think is authentic.
    4. $3150. Dial seems to new for a 1960 watch. How come the movements seem so pristine?
     
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  2. jordn Wants to be called Frank for some odd reason Apr 12, 2016

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    1) Refinished dial. Incorrect hour hand (freakishly big :D) minute hand looks ok ::confused2:: hard to gauge if it is the correct length because of the redial. Incorrect pushers and crown.
    2) Don't really know what the dealio is with these incorrect day wheels. I feel like at least every 1 out of 4 UG triple calendars I see have day wheels with a different language from the month sub-dial. THe watch looks good otherwise. Movement doesn't look that pristine. I detect plenty of service marks
    3)Wrong day wheel again (edit: not wrong). wrong crown. the month hand should be red, but it might just be worn down.
    4)Not from 1960. Would need to see the serial number to know which exact year, but this watch was made around the same time as the 2 watches above it. Well-preserved, all-original example
     
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  3. x3no Apr 12, 2016

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    Well I love the title.. That @LouS is a character... :p

    Oh and agree with @jordn and what he said.