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Universal Genève 21275. Original or redial?

  1. Fialetti Aug 13, 2018

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    I recently got my first two UGs, a couple of 1940s three-handers. One of them is a cal 262 with a working movement, nice oversize case, and even a well preserved fabric strap.

    The dial however has some deterioration, and there are some suspicious irregularities in the printing. I don't have any experience with these watches, and haven't been able to find any comparable examples online with original dials, so am not sure what to make of it. I am hoping someone here could help out, and would in any case love to see more examples of similar UGs. IMG_20180812_082325.jpg IMG_20180812_075657.jpg IMG_20180812_075730.jpg IMG_20180812_080236.jpg IMG_20180813_170707.jpg IMG_20180812_080147.jpg IMG_20180812_080905.jpg IMG_20180812_081043.jpg IMG_20180812_081002.jpg
     
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  2. bgrisso Aug 13, 2018

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    Hi and welcome to OF :). This looks like a redial. The fonts, railroad subdial, subdial numbers, and lack of swiss are all indicators in this regard. It kind of reminds me of this one a bit, which is 34mm (what's your case size?)
     
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  3. Fialetti Aug 13, 2018

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    Thanks! It is as you say, and the printing on your example looks much cleaner too.

    My example seems to be 35mm, which may account for their being a bit more space for the '6'.
     
  4. bimbim1207 Aug 14, 2018

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    I agree with @bgrisso, this is a redial.
     
  5. Caliber561 Aug 14, 2018

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    A geiger counter will likely confirm if it is redialed. The original radium should set an alarm off — but if the redialer chose to redial with radium then I suppose this is a moot point.
     
  6. Dan S Aug 14, 2018

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    You don't often see an accent over the third "E". ;)
     
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  7. Fialetti Aug 14, 2018

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    Indeed not, thought it's hard to tell whether it's a misspelling or one of the many flecks of dried oil in the dial and movement. Now that I'm certain it's a redial, I'm rather hoping that the redialer put it there.

    Thanks to everyone for weighing in. I'm a bit surprised there aren't a few more examples out there, as I wouldn't have thought there was anything rare about this watch.
     
  8. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Aug 14, 2018

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    Well ... Its an attractive old redial and lovely case and crown. So if you didn't pay to much just enjoy it. There is a pretty good data base of info building up here on Three Hand UG's.
     
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  9. Fialetti Aug 14, 2018

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    It wasn't very expensive. I like it well enough as it is, and hope to add a few more things to the database in future.
     
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  10. auxpomme Aug 14, 2018

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    Without my glasses it wasn’t as obvious it’s a redial