Hi,

what to you think about this one?

Is it an original Omega bracelet or is just the clasp Omega?

Thanks for your help!!!

 

Looks good to me, though I don't know the correct ('60s/'70s) model.

 

How do you call this kind of bracelet?

Obviously no bor and no flat link...

 

If you look at the picture 2 in, it shows a similar one on a 166.001. I am sure that Omega did make this type of bracelet. However, I have not seen one with a ridge down the middle, also the buckle looks unlike others I have seen before on similar bracelets. Neither of these mean that it is not authentic, but I would like to see better photos.

 

I have the same bracelet (in yellow) on two watches of mine. The difference is that the buckles on mine are without the Omega logo. I’ll go out on a limb and suggest Omega didn’t make the bracelet. The bracelet was likely a product of Jacoby Bender (known as JB), and Omega put their own buckle on it. The same basic bracelet was also done as an expansion band, with the expansion links at the back. I have one of these, in white, as well.

 

This is the one watch with the yellow bracelet on it. The buckle is stamped JB Champion.

 

This may well be true, but so as not to confuse less experienced collectors, note that it does not mean that the bracelet is not a genuine OMEGA product. In other words, it may be a correct bracelet for a certain model (or models).

 

Looks awfully similar to the commonly seen JB champion bracelets from the period.

 

I’ve had a few of these JB champion made omega bracelets. Similar to the UK made Milanese shackman bands (although no where near the quality) these period bands in most cases are correct.

 

I have had this type of bracelet on several US market references and they were always made by JB Champion with Omega buckles. As I have noted many times previously in various threads, bracelets for most Omegas 1940s-1960s (sports models being one exception) were sold as accessories, added to a watch upon sale or added when the original leather strap wore out. Pinning an exact bracelet to a given reference is not always possible.

 

I’ve seen a few of the JB stamped Omega bracelets. As far as I have read JB also made bracelets for Rolex (the Made in USA ones). It wasn’t uncommon to sub out manufacturing of accessories to a major supplier that already had the tooling in place . I have severel JB branded bracelets and they are on par with any of the Swiss bracelets I own.

 

Have these buckles been signed JB or on the inside?

Like here





https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-jb-champion-bracelet.14717/

Unfortunately it is impossible to see if the OP one has the small triangle JB...

Confusing

 

I very much doubt that my post was likely to cause confusion. The bracelet was (apparent to me at least), bought from Jacoby Bender by Omega, for installation on some of their models. They fitted Omega buckles to these bracelets. Does a Firestone tire on a Ford car make it a Ford tire?

 

What part of "less experienced collectors" did you fail to understand? Most readers would not likely be confused, but can you not see how an Omega signed clasp coupled with a bracelet signed by a different manufacturer might confuse an inexperienced collector? Cases, which were of course also outsourced, almost invariably had references to both manufacturers stamped.

 

“Is it an original Omega bracelet or is just the clasp Omega?”

What is it you don’t see? The above quote is from the opening post. That is the question I inferred that the OP wanted the answer to, so that is the question I answered! Original as to who made it, or original as to which watch company fitted to their product? Well, both, in a way. You will perhaps note above that the one bracelet has both the JB logo, AND the Omega logo, but only on the buckle! The photo of the underside of the buckle on the subject bracelet shows the Omega logo, but the photo doesn’t show the JB logo.

 

My point is simply that a clasp from any manufacturer could be affixed to a third-party bracelet, and inexperienced collectors may well be confused about originality. I do agree that if a clasp shows stamps from both manufacturers, then there should be no reason to worry.

 

May we consider this sort of a “saw off”, then?