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  1. aap Feb 12, 2016

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    Hey Guys

    I was offered this UG calendar and I was hoping for help vetting it out as I couldn't find any relevant comparable examples on Sala and online. It's ref no. is 51307. I'm a bit apprehensive about the logo (esp. the G on the Geneve) and the I'm not sure if these are the correct hands. Seller admitted he wasn't sure of the crown's originality. Thanks!

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  2. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Feb 12, 2016

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    The dial does not look refinished though the hands (and possibly dial) seem mismatched with the gold case. It is difficult to tell from the pictures if the dial is even luminous. If not, the hands are most certainly replacements.
     
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  3. Diabolik Feb 13, 2016

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    I like it. Dial and hands do not seem out of place to me ...
     
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  4. Private_Doberman Feb 13, 2016

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    I also like it very much , but my eyes keep getting drawn to what appears to be an upside down number nine on the calendar.
     
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  5. Diabolik Feb 13, 2016

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    That is perfectly normal. It is not an upside down nine, it is the right way up and as expected. The only thing that may be a little out of place is the re-lumed hands. But that would not put me off in the least ...
     
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  6. aap Feb 13, 2016

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    Thanks for the inputs. @Diabolik , what made you think the hands have been re-lumed? What are the signs?
     
  7. jordn Wants to be called Frank for some odd reason Feb 13, 2016

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    The hands are probably ok. It could be that the hour markers were originally lumed, but I've also seen these hands used in non-lume dial UG triple calendar watches. I see the partial deterioration of the hour hand and the puffy minute hand, but I don't know those necessary indicate a relume job - both can happen naturally. Appears to be an incorrect crown. Nice, not-overly polished case though. What's the asking price A?
     
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  8. aap Feb 13, 2016

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    Hey @jordn! You're right, the minute hand is puffy! I've been searching for that word for a while now. One thing I love about it are the the lugs. They are awesome! The price is approx. USD 3800.
     
  9. Diabolik Feb 13, 2016

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    That's little more than I would consider overly but that est moi ... nice watch !
     
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  10. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Feb 13, 2016

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    this inversion of the numbers is known as 'radial flip,' not uncommon on watches with pointer calendars (although not on Omegas).

    You want to be super careful to check for lug repairs on this case reference - they are very fragile.
     
  11. aap Feb 13, 2016

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    Hey @LouS! How do you spot lug repairs? What are the signs / tells? Thanks!
     
  12. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Feb 13, 2016

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    soldering around the base of the lugs. This example does not appear to have any
     
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  13. jordn Wants to be called Frank for some odd reason Feb 13, 2016

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    hmmm that does make me wonder about the Tri-Compax I bought late last year https://omegaforums.net/threads/spider-lug-tri-compax.31507/, all four lugs have signs of being soldered on. Not so obvious to the naked eye, but fairly apparent under the loupe.
     
  14. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Feb 13, 2016

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    Well, you have the watch in hand, but the pics look OK, jordn. The factory soldered them on initially, so maybe that's what you see under the loupe. The repairs are usually a little more sloppy
     
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  15. Diabolik Feb 13, 2016

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  16. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Feb 14, 2016

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  17. aap Feb 14, 2016

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  18. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Feb 14, 2016

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    Wrong, right hands. ;)

    Seriously, I think the hands are OK. Why do you think they don't belong?
     
  19. aap Feb 14, 2016

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    Hehe. Great answer. I thought the M/H hands were wrong since the outline that surrounds the hands seem thicker than usual. And the hand on the second sub-dial seems short. Shouldn't they reach the tip of the sub-dial?
     
  20. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Feb 14, 2016

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    you have a point about the running seconds hand, but that's not impossible to swap out. I think hour and minute could be OK, given all the improvisation UG did in watch assembly..